-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hanno Schlichting wrote:
> Lennart Regebro wrote: >> This is only mildly confusing. It can also only get better with time, >> as Plone seems to continue away from Zope 2 and onto the framework, >> which means we in the future may end up with Plone, Grok and BFG being >> app servers on the Zope Framework. > > The current line of thinking for Plone is about this: Plone 4 will still > run on Zope2. Plone 5 will run on Python 3.x and not depend on Zope2 > anymore at all. We can all guesstimate on what kind of timeline that > will mean. There isn't going to *be* a Zope3 to run on. > So it's highly likely that Zope 2.12 is the last release of Zope2 that > Plone is going to use. Maybe a Zope 2.13 once Python 2.7 is released > might be of interest to Plone. But otherwise I don't see any reason for > a new Zope 2 feature release anymore from the Plone perspective. Zope2 is the only game in town, as far as appservers go. > Plone is going to continue to use selected Zope libraries as everyone > else, but use Repoze or just general Python packages from all over. > Personally I want to move Plone from zope.i18n to Babel for example. We > are not bound by names or frameworks in our package choices. Note that unless you scrap the entire model of a Plone site as an application object hosted inside an appserver, you won't have a choice except to run atop Zope2: the Z3 appserver is going to be even more moribund a year from now than it is today. >> I also think all applications should move over to using repoze by >> default. BFG already does so, of course, and Plone 4 is set to do so. >> Hopefully by Zope 2.13, the old publisher can be a horrid memory, and >> repoze.Zope2 be default. > > I don't know if there's going to be anyone, who is going to drive Zope2 > itself forward into WSGI land. Z2 is at least *interesting* to work with at this point; making the Z3 appserver WSGI'fied will be hard and pointless by comparison. ? Plone is just switching to repoze.zope2 > and bits of zope.pipeline by itself. The kind of radical and backwards > incompatible changes an application like Plone can do, give us much more > flexibility here, compared to the more conservative approach a framework > needs to have. Tres. - -- =================================================================== Tres Seaver +1 540-429-0999 tsea...@palladion.com Palladion Software "Excellence by Design" http://palladion.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJ3WzV+gerLs4ltQ4RAs2PAJ4iQKiuFQm6nfBqEPoybe9rAkiprwCfWSPe rm+xkGTzEk2vRyUeI6KYWlo= =IIDR -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Zope-Dev maillist - Zope-Dev@zope.org http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope )