Hi,

On 05.07.2009, at 07:06, Lennart Regebro wrote:

> 2009/7/5 Stephan Richter <srich...@cosmos.phy.tufts.edu>:
>> To be honest, I am very disappointed by this list. It is totally  
>> meaningless
>> to me since it does not represent any list with which I can build  
>> even a
>> fairly simple application today. There is not a single z3c package  
>> in there.
>
> As I understand it, ZTK is not meant to build applications on. It's
> meant to build application servers on. ZTK is supposed to be tha base
> on which we build things like Grok, Plone, and yes, Zope 3.

I'd like to mention repoze.bfg here. It takes a fairly small set of  
zope.* packages. What the ZTK is will be finally defined by the  
included packages. From a user's (developing with ZTK) perspective,  
I'd appreciate a small good documented well tested and stable set of  
tools to build web applications on regardless of which server or which  
db I want to use. Christian's list represents that very well, IMHO I'd  
kick a few packages I don't use at all. And where is zope.catalog? BTW  
z3c.* packages in the ZTK would baffle me a lot, OTOH renaming z3c  
packages just to fit into the ZTK seems a bit unorthodox.

Very important are the tools and best practices surrounding the ZTK.  
Where do I start to get a state of the art but simple and inviting -  
from a developer's perspective - web application?

Regards,
Tobias

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