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Hanno Schlichting wrote:

> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Martijn Faassen <faas...@startifact.com> 
> wrote:
>> Last december Hanno made progress on the ZTK's dependency structure,
>> removing a lot of dependencies on packages. In his enthusiasm, he
>> unilaterally just removed all those suddenly-unneeded (by him!) packages
>> from the ZTK, without discussion.

> My actions last December had an unfortunate effect. I assumed a common
> understanding of what the ZTK should be and tried to work towards
> that, but it turned out that understanding wasn't shared after all. I
> should have known better and discussed things before taking any
> actions. For not discussing things properly I apologize. In didn't see
> any chance of making any progress during the heated debate following
> those events, so I decided to let things cool off and let everyone
> work on their own for a while.

Could we go ahead and move the Zope2 trunk back to 'extends ztk.cfg w/
the minimal possible deltas", instead of the current "keep ourselves to
ourselves" state?  It would be even better if that meant that Grok and
BlueBream would walk the tightrope with Zope2, and give up the relative
safety of a  pinned revision of ztk.cfg on their own trunks, sharing
instead with the Zope2 trunk a "white knuckle grip" on the contents  of
zopetoolkit/trunk/ztk.cfg until we can get ZTK to a release.

> The Zope community asked Christophe, Jan-Wijbrand and me to act as a
> release team for the ZTK and we started working on this task. I intend
> to continue to work in this group. If the Zope community feels I'm not
> qualified for the job or the other two team members don't want to work
> with me, I'll happily step down.

I believe that the three of you are ideal as representatives of the
major downstream consumers of the ZTK.  I hope that your triumvirate can
converge quickly on a process of achieving consensus on the maximal set
of shared package versions between the projects.

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