Lennart Regebro <rege...@gmail.com> writes:

> On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Jens Vagelpohl <j...@dataflake.org> wrote:
>>
>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 10:17 , Lennart Regebro <rege...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>> And since it becomes ever easier to accept code from unknown
>>> sources (e.g. pull requests) legal code ownership becomes an issue
>>> again.
>>>
>>> And that returns me to my first question: Is it really legally
>>> different for a contributor to accept a pull request from a
>>> non-contributor compared with a contributor merging a patch from a
>>> non-contributor?
>>
>> Legally, both are disallowed unless there's some proof (written
>> statement etc) from the code author that he assigns ownership of the
>> patch or the contents of that pull request to the contributor who is
>> doing the checkin.
>>
>> In the past we haven't done a good job of enforcing this clear
>> ownership assignment chain. There are always code patches from
>> non-contributors in the bug tracker that may make it into the code
>> base with the help of a contributor. There's a grey area: Is the act
>> of submitting a patch into the Zope bug tracker enough to signal "I
>> am giving you ownership of this code"? I am not sure.
>>
>> GitHub makes this pulling in of "outside" code even easier. I'm
>> afraid it will become even harder to really maintain this chain of
>> custody.
>
> This is then, IMO a problem that we should fix. What you are in fact
> saying is that the current system are violating people's copyright
> everytime we merge a non-contributors patch. It is unfeasible to not
> merge peoples patches, and I think it is also a big problem that the
> way the ownership of the code works now inhibits the increased
> simplicity of making and merging fixes for non-core contributors.
>
> In other words, we have had an ownership situation which is terrible,
> and nobody seems to have realized this until now. Well, now we know.
>
> As such, the discussion must now shift from "don't do this" to "how do
> we do this". Poeple want to contribute and we should not say "don't do
> that", we have to figure out *how* to make it possible to do that, and
> pretty pronto as well.

+10.  Thanks so much for saying this.

Ross

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