On Thu, Sep 01, 2005 at 02:33:19PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: | Derrick Hudson wrote: | > On Wed, Aug 31, 2005 at 03:54:45PM +0200, Philipp von Weitershausen wrote: | > | Julien Anguenot wrote: | > [...] | > | > | > If you change the header like this then it can be succesfully included : | > | > | > | > <?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?> | > | > <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" | > | > xmlns:tal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/tal" | > | > xmlns:metal="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/metal" | > | > xmlns:i18n="http://xml.zope.org/namespaces/i18n" | > | > i18n:domain="zope"> | > | > <body> | > | > | > | > What kind of issue could we have changing the headers like this on all | > | > the standard macros since it's xhtml already ? | > | | > | I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Because once Zope3's macros are XML | > | mode, all other templates using those macros need to be XML mode. That, | > | in turn, means that all templates need to carry the <?xml ...?> | > | processing instruction because that's the only way XML mode is currently | > | triggered. Since that processing instruction is optional (as opposed to | > | namespace declarations which are mandatory), I wouldn't want to force it | > | on template authors. | > | > Don't forget that IE will then have an insane tendency to render the | > pages wrong. I don't recall all of the details, but it was something | > like if the document began with <?xml ?> IE would switch to "quirks | > mode" and do funny things with boxes, margins, and the overall layout. | > The details are in this list's archives (if they aren't it's in the | > firstname.lastname@example.org list archives). | | I know about quirks mode and how it's provoked with <?xml ... ?>.
Ok. | Exactly because of that it has been impossible to use ZPT's XML mode to | render web pages -- because IE will choke on the <?xml ... ?> that is | necessary to put the ZPT machinery into XML in the first place... a | vicious circle so to speak. Yeah. Earlier in this subthread (quoted above) the question was asked if leaving the ZPT processing untouched and putting <?xml?> in every template would have negative side effects. I didn't want this one to be forgotten. | If we make XML the default mode, I don't see how it would impact IE very | much. After all, the <?xml ... ?> processing instruction would then be | optional and could be left out for XHTML pages. It would finally be | possible to properly embed XForms, SVG etc. into XHTML though. Right. The logic ZPT uses to render the content doesn't have to dictate the content-type or any processing instructions in the resulting output. As I noted in a different post I am in favor of changing the processing logic to "XML Mode". -D -- UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity. -- Dennis Ritchie www: http://dman13.dyndns.org/~dman/ jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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