Jim Fulton wrote:
Stephan Richter wrote:

On Wednesday 18 January 2006 11:27, Martijn Faassen wrote:

How do you assemble releases 'from releases'? I'm not sure I
understand that. You mean make a Zope 2 release using a Zope 3

I'll note that SchoolTool greatly benefits from the current release
building. We simply include all the Zope 3 dependencies in our dependency list and build the release. We can decide to include
Zope 3 dependencies or not. Overall I think zpkg is a great win and
whatever we do next should not remove those features.

I agree that dependency based releases -- and development is great.
I think eggs are a lot farther along that zpkg. (Eggs weren't around
when we started zpkg.)  If eggs work out, as I hope they will, I'd
like to stop work on zpkg and just use eggs.

Sure, I support dependencies and separating out Zope into sub projects, I'm just listing an additional use case: the repository state should be similar to release state, to avoid confusion for developers as well as people who want to become developers.

I.e. a developer should have the ability to easily see the same (or similar) code layout, dependencies, etc, as in a release, and someone familiar with a release should see the same (or similar) code layout, dependencies, if they become a developer.

Another use case, probably mostly in the context of Five, it's nice to have an inclusive release of Zope 3 in Zope 2. The goal of reducing the amount of code included in Zope 2 sounds nice in theory, but it stops Five developers from exposing Zope 3 code in Zope 2 because it simply isn't there in a particular release. It is *nice* to have all of Zope 3 included in Zope 2. I don't want to lose that good thing in the rush to minimize dependencies.


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