Geoff Davis wrote: ...
* Can we address Jeff's concerns? If so, how? * What can we learn from Rails / Django / TurboGears?
I think that one of the first steps is to agree on who our target audiences are and target them individually. Zope has a number of target audences, including: - Non-technical users who just want to crank our a web application with little muss and fuss. This was the original focus of Zope 2 and now Plone. - People who know what an app server is and know they need one. People who know they need to reuse applications and need tools to customise them. People who know they need rich servcies, like security, transactions, etc. These are the people for whom Zope 3 was written. - People who want straightforward tools for developing small to moderate complexity sites in Python. I don't think we are servving this audience well. Then there are more fragmented audiences, like people who want a dirt simple way to create applications based on relational databases. My main point is that we need to consider each of these audiences, as they have separate concerns. We need to be explicit about this and have messages and technical solutions tailored to each audience. Jim -- Jim Fulton mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Python Powered! CTO (540) 361-1714 http://www.python.org Zope Corporation http://www.zope.com http://www.zope.org _______________________________________________ Zope3-dev mailing list Zope3-dev@zope.org Unsub: http://mail.zope.org/mailman/options/zope3-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com
