Max M wrote:

Geoff Davis wrote:

Jeff Shell has posted some thought-provoking pieces on his blog that are
relevant to Jim's recent attempt to better articulate a vision for Zope:

Griddle *Noise* and thats exactly what it is... noise.

He is probably following the discussions on the lists, and then he is publishing his view on them on his blog instead of participating in the dicsussion.

That's unfair. Jeff is actively participating on the list. Which list are you refering to, BTW? He has posted about 10 mails on the "two visions" thread in the past 2 days.

He is just another developer who wants Zope to consists of only those elements that he is insterrested in.

but that's a perfectly valid concern. Zope needs some more decoupling of its components.

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