On 2/10/06, michael nt milne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I've spoken to many people on various lists and can confirm the feeling > about usability on the ZMI etc. You call them 'halfwits'. That puts you on > rather high ground and this attitude is obviously part of the problem.
1. By complaining about something that a lot of people do not find any problem with, YOU put yourself on a rather high ground compared to the people here who both created and use it. Suggestion: Don't complain about the software that you want help with, because it makes the people who wrote it pissed off. Quite simple, really. 2. I have myself held courses in how to use a CMS (EasyPublisher) where you did most everything through the ZMI for people with bother very little computer experience and a lot, and it was never a big usebility problem. That the ZMI has big useability problems is simply not true. You also claim that there are lot of people complainng that the ZMI has useability problems. Well, we are on all those mailing-lists, unless you have found some secret mailing lists for people who don't like Zope, so we know that there is in fact NOT a lot of complaints about this. When you claim that there are loads of people who say so, when there obviously isn't undermines your credbility and inclines people to not take you seriously. Suggestion: Don't make up facts and statements that is not true, don't invent people that doesn't exist. Don't say that X is generally accepted as a fact when it isn't. If you do that, people will call you a liar, and you don't want that. (Oh, and if you want an explanation about why a few people don't find the ZMI useable, it's because it's not "pretty", don't have flash graphics and such. People often confuse "prettyness" with "useability". ZMI is basic and well, ugly. It is however quite consistent and useable.) And the same goes for Zopes access control. It is in no way complicated or hard to understand. By starting early in the discussion with complaining about it, you just make people pissed off and get the discussion running away in the wrong direction. Don't do that. > How come Plone's interface is so useable and a delight to work with? How was > that financed? Because it's pretty? :-) -- Lennart Regebro, Nuxeo http://www.nuxeo.com/ CPS Content Management http://www.cps-project.org/ _______________________________________________ Zope maillist - [email protected] http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope ** No cross posts or HTML encoding! ** (Related lists - http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-announce http://mail.zope.org/mailman/listinfo/zope-dev )
