Abram, Thanks for the comments.
I think probability is just one way to deal with uncertainty. Defeasible reasoning is another. Non-monotonic logic of various implementations. I often think that probability is the wrong way to do some things regarding AGI design. Maybe things can't be known with super high confidence, but we still want as high confidence as reasonably possible. Once we have that, we just have to have working assumptions and working hypotheses. From there we need the ability to update beliefs if we can find a reason to think the beliefs are wrong... Dave On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Abram Demski <abramdem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 8:22 PM, Abram Demski <abramdem...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> (Without this sort of generality, your approach seems restricted to >> gathering knowledge about whatever events unfold in front of a limited >> quantity of high-quality camera systems which you set up. To be honest, the >> usefulness of that sort of knowledge is not obvious.) >> > > On second thought, this statement was a bit naive. You obviously intend the > camera systems to be connected to robots or other systems which perform > actual tasks in the world, providing a great variety of information > including feedback from success/failure of actions to achieve results. > > What is unrealistic to me is not that this information could be useful, but > that this level of real-world intelligence could be achieved with the > super-high confidence bounds you are imagining. What I think is that > probabilistic reasoning is needed. Once we have the object/location/texture > information with those confidence bounds (which I do see as possible), > gaining the sort of knowledge Cyc set out to contain seems inherently > statistical. > > >> >> --Abram >> >> >> >> On Fri, Aug 6, 2010 at 4:44 PM, David Jones <davidher...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Hey Guys, >>> >>> I've been working on writing out my approach to create general AI to >>> share and debate it with others in the field. I've attached my second draft >>> of it in PDF format, if you guys are at all interested. It's still a work in >>> progress and hasn't been fully edited. Please feel free to comment, >>> positively or negatively, if you have a chance to read any of it. I'll be >>> adding to and editing it over the next few days. >>> >>> I'll try to reply more professionally than I have been lately :) Sorry :S >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Dave >>> *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> >>> <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | >>> Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription >>> <http://www.listbox.com> >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Abram Demski >> http://lo-tho.blogspot.com/ >> http://groups.google.com/group/one-logic >> > > > > -- > Abram Demski > http://lo-tho.blogspot.com/ > http://groups.google.com/group/one-logic > *agi* | Archives <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now> > <https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/> | > Modify<https://www.listbox.com/member/?&;>Your Subscription > <http://www.listbox.com> > ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
