> -----Original Message----- > From: Steve Richfield [mailto:steve.richfi...@gmail.com] > > > Really? Do networks such as botnets really care about this? Or does it > apply? > > Anytime negative feedback can become positive feedback because of delays > or phase shifts, this becomes an issue. Many competent EE people fail to see > the phase shifting that many decision processes can introduce, e.g. by > responding as quickly as possible, finite speed makes finite delays and sharp > frequency cutoffs, resulting in instabilities at those frequency cutoff points > because of violation of the 12db/octave rule. Of course, this ONLY applies in > feedback systems and NOT in forward-only systems, except at the real-world > point of feedback, e.g. the bots themselves. > > Of course, there is the big question of just what it is that is being > "attenuated" in the bowels of an intelligent system. Usually, it is > computational delays making sharp frequency-limited attenuation at their > response speeds. > > Every gamer is well aware of the oscillations that long "ping times" can > introduce in people's (and intelligent bot's) behavior. Again, this is basically > the same 12db/octave phenomenon. >
OK, excuse my ignorance on this - a design issue in distributed intelligence is how to split up "things" amongst the agents. I see it as a hierarchy of virtual networks, with the lowest level being the substrate like IP sockets or something else but most commonly TCP/UDP. The protocols above that need to break up the work, and the knowledge distribution, so the 12db/octave phenomenon must apply there too. I assume any intelligence processing engine must include a harmonic mathematical component since ALL things are basically network, especially intelligence. This might be an overly aggressive assumption but it seems from observance that intelligence/consciousness exhibits some sort of harmonic property, or levels. John ------------------------------------------- agi Archives: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/303/=now RSS Feed: https://www.listbox.com/member/archive/rss/303/ Modify Your Subscription: https://www.listbox.com/member/?member_id=8660244&id_secret=8660244-6e7fb59c Powered by Listbox: http://www.listbox.com
