On Sun, 18 Jun 2006 17:11:50 -0400, Max <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just would like to comment what i saw on the wiki... haden't time to
> contribute, my familly meeting turned into a business meeting in which i  
> was
> both involved and interested (i now i got a new job :p) so i didn't had  
> time
> to contribute :
congrats

> - we should use the category feature of mediawiki. To put an article in a
> category, simply add [[Category:Name]] at the end of the page.
sure, good idea.. I saw you or NWM on the test mediawiki I've set up, put  
a [[Category::How To]] in one of the pages...

> - we shouldn't make distro specific instructions : for example the how to
> remove tcl/tk with debian shoud be, imho, "remove tcl/tk packages" and
> distro specific links (internal or external) on how to use package
> management. We have to keep the wiki universal.
>
> If we go too much in specific details, we are going to miss some of the
> users (not every one is using debian and we cannot explain how to use
> apt-get/pacman/emerge/uprmi/yast/rpm and so on...)
>
> my 2 cents !
>

yes, I agree, but what is simpler for the users :
do 'apt-get install tcl8.4-dev tk8.4-dev'
or
go to this link http://debian.org/.... and read about it to download  
tcl/tk dev packages
which would mean read pages and pages about apt-get, then how to search  
for tcl/tk devel packages using apt-cache, then do an apt-get on it, then  
try to figure out why it says tk-dev and tcl-dev are not real packages,  
only references, then they'll have to figure out that it was actually  
tk8.4-dev and tcl8.4-dev, etc...

I think we should keep it modular as I said, yes, make it universal, but  
that's why article based is so great, you give generic instructions, with  
the 'install tcl/tk dev packages' being a link to another article that  
would explain how to do it per platform, or itself be a dispatch article  
that would dispatch you to the appropriate article for you distro...
http://amsn.sourceforge.net/userwiki/index.php/Enabling_antialiasing <--  
many things to improve ?
commands are with --enable-64bit ?
many typos...
the '(yes, I copy&pasted here :p)' in Downloading Tk, might confuse some  
people into thinking they have to copy paste with 'nameofpackage.tar.gz'  
or something.. try to make it look professional, not 'familial'...
for the prerequesites, you say you need to install the dev packages for  
tcl/tk 8.4, but it's not true, if the user follows the link, he'll install  
dev packages OF tcl/tk 8.4, while he only needs the dependencies...
the best way to do it is to use 'apt-cache show tk8.4' and see what ARE  
those dependencies.. you'll see it's only libc, and xlibs (or libx11), so  
you could be pretty sure, there is no dependency, so this whole thing  
could be removed, leave only the xft thing, and as we just said above,  
make it 'Prerequisites' and 'you need to install xlibs and xft-dev' which  
would link to a how to install xft-dev...

you talk about 'launching amsn with its usual name, amsn, will give you a  
segfault'... first, you don't need to say that... it makes our reputation  
bad...
secondly, I may have found a way to avoid this segfault.. I'm still  
testing it..

-- 
KaKaRoTo


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