I agree with Al, in some ways, If Google suddenly said it's not doing the program any more we couldn't complain as it's a free gift. However, the "lab attendees, forum supporters and free app developers" all have a combined positive effect on the Android platform.
Anyway Al, fancy doing an AndAppStore Device Seeding program.... ? :p Tom. On Apr 12, 1:49 pm, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > If they were only going to paid-app developers I'd understand your > point, but the seeding program is getting devices to lab attendees, > forum supporters and free app developers as well as paid ones, so > there are a fair number of people in there that won't be making > anything back for Google because either they won't release apps or > they won't charge for them. > > As you're no worse off than before you got your email I don't see why > you're sad, I'd understand being sad if you'd had to do something or > pay something specifically to qualify for the 'phone, but in this case > they're rewards for past actions, so you haven't really been put-out > and you're definitely not out of pocket if the 'phone doesn't turn up. > > Al. > > On Apr 12, 12:48 pm, Richard <rtaylor...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > Nobody here is ungrateful, but I don't think it is unfair of us to be > > disappointed that our phones have not arrived after 6 weeks, when > > we're told 2-4. > > > And it's a little naive to think that they aren't doing this for their > > own benefit, they are being sent so that established developers - who > > may or may not be considering putting out new applications > > (considerably more likely to now that they have a shiny new phone), so > > that we can develop things for their market place, and ultimately they > > can make money from the app sales. > > > The 30% in transaction fee's that's been taken through my sales could > > have bought me more than one N1, and cover the cost of manufacturing > > about half a dozen. And my paid apps are far from top-sellers. > > > But again, I'm not remotely ungrateful, just sad that it hasn't turned > > up in the time that we were promised. > > > On Apr 12, 10:49 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > > David, > > > > Whilst I understand your concern, even if someone posted "I got mine" > > > and they lived right next door to your old address that doesn't mean > > > yours will have arrived. Yes, we've been told all of the 'phones have > > > been sent out, but the shipping was most likely done in batches and so > > > there could be days or weeks between the first and last UK deliveries. > > > > So I'd still suggest you hold out until the end of the month. If your > > > 'phone arrives then great, if it doesn't arrive by the end of the > > > month then drop another email to google and see if they're willing to > > > do something about it, but even if the worst comes to the worst and > > > you don't get a 'phone you're not out of pocket and no worse off than > > > you were before Google decided to give you a freebie. > > > > Al. > > > > On Apr 12, 8:55 am, dgoemans <dgoem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Al, > > > > > Thanks and i completely agree... my concern is there's been a big > > > > change of situation on my side: no one is available at that address > > > > anymore, and i'm moving, so that address will no longer be valid soon. > > > > Google have said they're all shipped, so there's nothing i can do > > > > about it. And that was 2 weeks ago when i requested the change of > > > > address. This is why i'm actively watching this thread. > > > > > David > > > > > On Apr 12, 8:44 am, Al Sutton <a...@funkyandroid.com> wrote: > > > > > > It cost you nothing, so lighten up. > > > > > > So what if the shipping that you didn't pay for takes longer than was > > > > > in the original email?, Google are the ones paying for this, so it's > > > > > entirely under their control, and it's up to them when want to do > > > > > something about it. > > > > > > If you really are desperate for a Nexus one / Droid go out and buy one > > > > > then sell it on eBay once your free one arrives. Yes, you'll lose some > > > > > money, but hey, you're the one desperate for the 'phone and > > > > > convenience costs. > > > > > > I'd like to suggest that everyone gives up on they "Still haven't got > > > > > my free 'phone" emails until the end of April. By that point we'll be > > > > > well past the timeframe in the email and it's then worth contacting > > > > > Google directly (not via this list) because if 'phones are getting > > > > > lost in shipping and Google don't make an insurance claim are not made > > > > > then the shipping partner involved won't start looking into why > > > > > 'phones weren't delivered. > > > > > > Al. > > > > > > On Apr 11, 10:29 pm, Genc <gmt...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Nothing for London, Grrr... > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 10:43 am, Thomas Riley <tomrile...@googlemail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Still nothing for me in UK either. > > > > > > > > From what Google have said via email, it's likely to be a few more > > > > > > > weeks. Worth the wait though ;) > > > > > > > > On Apr 10, 9:28 am, dgoemans <dgoem...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Still no-one in Europe? Myself and another dev i know in the > > > > > > > > Netherlands have not got ours yet. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 11:57 pm, "olivier.bo...@gmail.com" > > > > > > > > > <olivier.bo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant in Europe, no phone seems to have been > > > > > > > > > received outside > > > > > > > > > the US yet except for ADC2 phones (and yes I think I've read > > > > > > > > > the 600+ > > > > > > > > > messages in hope to find one :-)). > > > > > > > > > I think us European will have to wait a couple of weeks more > > > > > > > > > but it's > > > > > > > > > ok, it's a free phone, it's a gift, it could arrive in a few > > > > > > > > > month > > > > > > > > > time and still be a great surprise and a nice touch from > > > > > > > > > Google! > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 8, 11:37 pm, "~ TreKing" <treking...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 3:52 PM, olivier.bo...@gmail.com < > > > > > > > > > > > olivier.bo...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I'm still surprised about Google's comment that many > > > > > > > > > > > people have already > > > > > > > > > > > received their phone (for MarketSeedingProgram). 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