What region did you observe the Morren's Jonagored Supra on B9 Jon? Can you say 
something about chilling requirement for that cultivar? I think Jonagold is an 
excellent apple for fresh eating. If the New England Apple Association wants to 
brand it, I think they are making a good choice.

Bill

William H. Shoemaker

Retired fruit and vegetable horticulturist

University of Illinois

wshoe...@illinois.edu<mailto:wshoe...@illinois.edu>

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Root pruning: YES
Withhold nitrogen: YES
Minimize dormant pruning, do some summer pruning (but don't remove fruit): YES
Use Apogee: YES
Over-crop: YES maybe, but use NAA and/or Ethrel to promote return bloom 
development
Use B.9 rootstock (as opposed to M.9): YES
Make sure you have enough variety to pollinate: YES

I found Morren's Jonagored Supra (Willow Drive) grown on B.9 rootstock to be a 
very nice Jonagold strain. Good crops without too many large fruit. Still have 
to watch biennial bearing. I would plant that strain in a heartbeat if I want 
Jonagold.

Did you hear New England Apple Association is going to brand Jonagold apples 
grown in New England? Not sure, however, what they are calling it?

Any other ideas out there?

Jon

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 10:18 PM, Hugh Thomas 
<hughthoma...@gmail.com<mailto:hughthoma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I've always wondered about root pruning with a deep running and large disk. 
Just a thought...

On Sat, Jan 9, 2016 at 11:48 AM, David Kollas 
<kol...@frontier.com<mailto:kol...@frontier.com>> wrote:


        Art:

                I don’t know whence the observations or measurements have come, 
but I saw a rootstock comparison
        in which G202 was said to produce “smaller fruit size.”   For the 
reason you mention, I hope this is true, and of
        more than just statistical significance.  I suspect that if it were a 
practical difference, we would have heard more
        about it.

        David Kollas
        Kollas Orchard, Connecticut


On Jan 9, 2016, at 12:01 PM, Arthur Kelly 
<kellyorcha...@gmail.com<mailto:kellyorcha...@gmail.com>> wrote:

> Any suggestions out there for how to reduce fruit size without getting into 
> biennial bearing as in not thinning?  Some varieties (Jonagold) would be more 
> marketable if they were 2.75 - 3.0" instead of all more than 3.0".
>
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> Kelly Orchards
> Acton, ME
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