Peter,
As others say it is unlikely to fit the S10
trailer but my suggestion was to look at it to get some ideas.
The trailer I saw in the US was not the Komet
clamshell type so sounds like the one at Camden is like the one I saw.
Mike
At 08:46 PM 9/07/2015, you wrote:
Thanks,
There may be others interested
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Derek Ruddock
<<mailto:drudd...@iinet.net.au>drudd...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
The unloved trailer at Camden was not for the
Camden based s10. It is a traditional (and
large) steel clad design and belonged to Neil
Cox, who based his s10 at Bankstown.
Neil was tragically killed , along with his 4
year old son, due to an engine fire when
returning to Bankstown from Camden a number of years ago.
The wing hoists are sitting in our hangar at Camden.
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Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
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Hi
I have done some work on/with a Stemme S10
trailer, it was the S10 that was a Camden for
many years. I have been told it was the first
Cobra trailer built for an S10. It is a large
clamshell Cobra (I think) with a fibreglass top.
The arrangement is the outer wing panels go in
the sides as per standard method and the heavy
wing centre section goes in along the bottom
floor. The Fuselage then sits on a wide dolly
that straddles the main wing section Also the
tail plane goes in the roof I think. The trailer
came with its own mobile hydraulic hoist which
you had to assemble with bolts and wing nuts.
The hoist/crane was a modified engine hoist with
large pneumatic tyres. Those engine hoists are
available from super crap auto for $250 to $300 I think.
It works for the Stemme however the cord width
for a Kookaburra is fairly big and hence it may
be difficult to locate the wing underneath the fuse.
Regards,
John Orton
On 09/07/2015 7:57 AM, "Mike Borgelt"
<<mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com>mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com>
wrote:
Peter,
I'd have a look at the trailer for the Stemme S10.
The one I saw had a kind of crane for the center
section built into the trailer. Can't remember
much else about it as I wasn't that interested
and it was twenty plus years ago.
Similar problem. Two seat, wide fuselage, three
piece wing with heavy center section.
Mike
 At 08:27 AM 9/07/2015, you wrote:
No,ÃÂ The trailer is a modified open flat bed
trailer, to which the Glider is sort of bolted on.
Getting the wing centre sectionà off was
difficult for 3 people.ÃÂ Getting the fuselage
off may take a vertical lift crane!
A redesign is required so that no one lifts
anything.ÃÂ I am still crowd sourcing ideas for that.
On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Gary Stevenson
<<mailto:gstev...@bigpond.com>gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote:
Hi Derek,
Quite possibly, some might say exactly the same thing about the aircraft!
Gliding legend Doug Robinson, (from GCV), called the short wing version a
Brickaburra. Was this tongue in cheek I wonder?
I think that somewhere along the line I helped to rig a couple of LW
Kookaburra's, but this is NOT an experience that lives forever in my memory!
Perhaps this is a very good thing!
As always, I imagine the secret to rigging this type is to have plenty of
man-power, and just one person (who knows exactly how everything - glider
and trailer - works), to coordinate things.
I wonder what an unbiased person might say about the practically and ease of
using Emilis's trailer!ÃÂ Does such a person
still exist out there? Also, how
well did this trailer tow?
BTW Peter C, does your trailer match Emilis's description?
Gary
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Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015 7:57 PM
To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
Sounds hideous...
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Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2015 1:04 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
I don't know where GLZ is these days.
When I owned it, it had an open trailer ex Southern Cross GC.
I then built an enclosed trailer which was sold on to the late Mike
Valentine and John Viney.
This trailer has (from memory) the tailplane in the roof, the outer wing
panels side by side with root ends in the front right corner (looking from
the rear open door), the fuselage with rudder at the front end diagonally
across the trailer, and the centre section against the left wall with
underside facing outward.
The centre section is in a cradle at the front trailer end in a rolling
frame, so that it can rotate horizontal once the centre section is clear of
the trailer rear with its door swung out of the way. The centre section is
at a height that clears the fuselage height rolling on the ground.
A stand holds the external end of the horizontal centre section.
This permits the fuselage to be rolled under, tilted away from the trailer
side as the external stand is removed and the centre section mated at this
somewhat inclined angle. Once rigged, this part airframe rolls aft away from
the trailer and the other lighter parts can be carried and rigged.
On 06/07/2015, at 4:04 PM, Peter Champness wrote:
> We are attempting to put VH-GRN into service.ÃÂ The trailer is pretty
> atrocious and it à is a lot of trouble to unpack and to load the
> glider.
>Â
> Does anyone have a trailer or have any good ideas re wing stands,
> rigging aids etc.
>Â
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