Up until last week my dad owned a Skylark 4 in the UK. I flew it in May. The
trailer was quite compact for the size of the glider. The 2 tips are to the
left, roots positioned front and rear of the trailer. The centre section is on
the right. The centre section has large wheels at each end and sits on these in
the trailer. The Wheels are on 2 frames that bolt into the mainspar pin holes.
The trailer is tipped down so that the back is on the ground as matt says. Once
the centre section is out of the trailer you plug in long handles that are just
the right length to lift the centre section over the fuselage once rotated,
with the handles at waist height. Wing stand under each end of the centre
section and plug on the tips once handles and wheels removed. It's a 2 man rig
but you need a 3rd eye to help lower the centre section accurately and put the
pins in. It's an easy 2 man de-rig. As matt said, the fuselage comes out first
and is rotated 90 degrees to the trailer, a wingspan distance from the trailer.
---- Matt Gage wrote ----
Might also be worth talking to some Skylark 4 owners in the UK.
I’ve seen a couple of closed trailers from which they could be rigged and
de-rigged with 2 people in about 15 minutes - ok, a single seater, but a very
heavy centre section. They used a rotating/lifting frame to take the centre
section from vertical in the trailer to horizontal and provided an ergonomic
lifting position so it could be carried over the fuselage. Very simple, but
effective and easy to use.
The closed trailer (or at least some form of roof structure) was required to
support both the centre section and fuselage inside it.
To use, the trailer was jacked up at the front and everything rolled out of the
back door until well clear of the trailer (usual UK trailer arrangement). They
generally turned the fuselage 90 degrees to the trailer to make fitting the
centre section easier
Matt
> On 9 Jul 2015, at 9:51 , Mike Borgelt <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> I'd have a look at the trailer for the Stemme S10.
>
> The one I saw had a kind of crane for the center section built into the
> trailer. Can't remember much else about it as I wasn't that interested and it
> was twenty plus years ago.
>
> Similar problem. Two seat, wide fuselage, three piece wing with heavy center
> section.
>
> Mike
>
>
>
>
> At 08:27 AM 9/07/2015, you wrote:
>> No, The trailer is a modified open flat bed trailer, to which the Glider
>> is sort of bolted on.
>>
>> Getting the wing centre section off was difficult for 3 people. Getting
>> the fuselage off may take a vertical lift crane!
>>
>> A redesign is required so that no one lifts anything. I am still crowd
>> sourcing ideas for that.
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Gary Stevenson <gstev...@bigpond.com
>> <mailto:gstev...@bigpond.com>> wrote:
>> Hi Derek,
>> Quite possibly, some might say exactly the same thing about the aircraft!
>> Gliding legend Doug Robinson, (from GCV), called the short wing version a
>> Brickaburra. Was this tongue in cheek I wonder?
>>
>> I think that somewhere along the line I helped to rig a couple of LW
>> Kookaburra's, but this is NOT an experience that lives forever in my memory!
>> Perhaps this is a very good thing!
>>
>> As always, I imagine the secret to rigging this type is to have plenty of
>> man-power, and just one person (who knows exactly how everything - glider
>> and trailer - works), to coordinate things.
>>
>> I wonder what an unbiased person might say about the practically and ease of
>> using Emilis's trailer! Does such a person still exist out there? Also, how
>> well did this trailer tow?
>>
>> BTW Peter C, does your trailer match Emilis's description?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
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>> <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net>] On Behalf Of Derek
>> Ruddock
>> Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015 7:57 PM
>> To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
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>> Sounds hideous...
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> prelgauskas
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>> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra
>>
>> I don't know where GLZ is these days.
>> When I owned it, it had an open trailer ex Southern Cross GC.
>> I then built an enclosed trailer which was sold on to the late Mike
>> Valentine and John Viney.
>>
>> This trailer has (from memory) the tailplane in the roof, the outer wing
>> panels side by side with root ends in the front right corner (looking from
>> the rear open door), the fuselage with rudder at the front end diagonally
>> across the trailer, and the centre section against the left wall with
>> underside facing outward.
>> The centre section is in a cradle at the front trailer end in a rolling
>> frame, so that it can rotate horizontal once the centre section is clear of
>> the trailer rear with its door swung out of the way. The centre section is
>> at a height that clears the fuselage height rolling on the ground.
>> A stand holds the external end of the horizontal centre section.
>> This permits the fuselage to be rolled under, tilted away from the trailer
>> side as the external stand is removed and the centre section mated at this
>> somewhat inclined angle. Once rigged, this part airframe rolls aft away from
>> the trailer and the other lighter parts can be carried and rigged.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 06/07/2015, at 4:04 PM, Peter Champness wrote:
>>
>> > We are attempting to put VH-GRN into service. The trailer is pretty
>> > atrocious and it  is a lot of trouble to unpack and to load the
>> > glider.
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a trailer or have any good ideas re wing stands,
>> > rigging aids etc.
>> >
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