Thanks, There may be others interested
On Thu, Jul 9, 2015 at 8:23 PM, Derek Ruddock <drudd...@iinet.net.au> wrote: > The unloved trailer at Camden was not for the Camden based s10. It is a > traditional (and large) steel clad design and belonged to Neil Cox, who > based his s10 at Bankstown. > > Neil was tragically killed , along with his 4 year old son, due to an > engine fire when returning to Bankstown from Camden a number of years ago. > > The wing hoists are sitting in our hangar at Camden. > > > > *From:* aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto: > aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] *On Behalf Of *John Orton > *Sent:* Thursday, 9 July 2015 1:57 PM > *To:* Aus-Soaring mail list > > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra > > > > Hi > > I have done some work on/with a Stemme S10 trailer, it was the S10 that > was a Camden for many years. I have been told it was the first Cobra > trailer built for an S10. It is a large clamshell Cobra (I think) with a > fibreglass top. > > The arrangement is the outer wing panels go in the sides as per standard > method and the heavy wing centre section goes in along the bottom floor. > The Fuselage then sits on a wide dolly that straddles the main wing section > Also the tail plane goes in the roof I think. The trailer came with its own > mobile hydraulic hoist which you had to assemble with bolts and wing nuts. > The hoist/crane was a modified engine hoist with large pneumatic tyres. > Those engine hoists are available from super crap auto for $250 to $300 I > think. > > It works for the Stemme however the cord width for a Kookaburra is fairly > big and hence it may be difficult to locate the wing underneath the fuse. > > Regards, > John Orton > > On 09/07/2015 7:57 AM, "Mike Borgelt" <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> > wrote: > > Peter, > > I'd have a look at the trailer for the Stemme S10. > > The one I saw had a kind of crane for the center section built into the > trailer. Can't remember much else about it as I wasn't that interested and > it was twenty plus years ago. > > Similar problem. Two seat, wide fuselage, three piece wing with heavy > center section. > > Mike > > > > > At 08:27 AM 9/07/2015, you wrote: > > No, The trailer is a modified open flat bed trailer, to which the Glider > is sort of bolted on. > > Getting the wing centre section off was difficult for 3 people. Getting > the fuselage off may take a vertical lift crane! > > A redesign is required so that no one lifts anything. I am still crowd > sourcing ideas for that. > > On Wed, Jul 8, 2015 at 9:14 PM, Gary Stevenson <gstev...@bigpond.com> > wrote: > > Hi Derek, > > Quite possibly, some might say exactly the same thing about the aircraft! > > Gliding legend Doug Robinson, (from GCV), called the short wing version a > > Brickaburra. Was this tongue in cheek I wonder? > > I think that somewhere along the line I helped to rig a couple of LW > > Kookaburra's, but this is NOT an experience that lives forever in my > memory! > > Perhaps this is a very good thing! > > As always, I imagine the secret to rigging this type is to have plenty of > > man-power, and just one person (who knows exactly how everything - glider > > and trailer - works), to coordinate things. > > I wonder what an unbiased person might say about the practically and ease > of > > using Emilis's trailer! Does such a person still exist out there? Also, > how > > well did this trailer tow? > > BTW Peter C, does your trailer match Emilis's description? > > Gary > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > > [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > <aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net>] On Behalf Of Derek > > Ruddock > > Sent: Wednesday, 8 July 2015 7:57 PM > > To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra > > Sounds hideous... > > -----Original Message----- > > From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > > [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net > <aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net>] On Behalf Of emilis > > prelgauskas > > Sent: Tuesday, 7 July 2015 1:04 PM > > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Trailer for a long wing Kookaburra > > I don't know where GLZ is these days. > > When I owned it, it had an open trailer ex Southern Cross GC. > > I then built an enclosed trailer which was sold on to the late Mike > > Valentine and John Viney. > > This trailer has (from memory) the tailplane in the roof, the outer wing > > panels side by side with root ends in the front right corner (looking from > > the rear open door), the fuselage with rudder at the front end diagonally > > across the trailer, and the centre section against the left wall with > > underside facing outward. > > The centre section is in a cradle at the front trailer end in a rolling > > frame, so that it can rotate horizontal once the centre section is clear of > > the trailer rear with its door swung out of the way. The centre section is > > at a height that clears the fuselage height rolling on the ground. > > A stand holds the external end of the horizontal centre section. > > This permits the fuselage to be rolled under, tilted away from the trailer > > side as the external stand is removed and the centre section mated at this > > somewhat inclined angle. Once rigged, this part airframe rolls aft away > from > > the trailer and the other lighter parts can be carried and rigged. > > > On 06/07/2015, at 4:04 PM, Peter Champness wrote: > > > We are attempting to put VH-GRN into service. The trailer is pretty > > > atrocious and it  is a lot of trouble to unpack and to load the > > > glider. > > > > > > Does anyone have a trailer or have any good ideas re wing stands, > > > rigging aids etc. > > > > > > Peter Champness_______________________________________________ > > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.6037 / Virus Database: 4365/10184 - Release Date: 07/07/15 > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > > To check or change subscription details, visit: > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > *Borgelt Instruments* - > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978* > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >
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