The BMW UUC Digest Volume 2 : Issue 476 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: CCA Elections Re: [E36] Horrible cold-start consumption Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Thanks RE: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Re: [E36] Horrible cold-start consumption
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 16:05:47 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: CCA Elections Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Happy New Year all, I'd like to mention that Rafael Garces, has been nominated by the current National Board Secretary, Barbara Adams, to the position of Secretary. I don't think Barbara would step down unless she thought the position would be in good hands. After working with Raf for several years with the National Capital Chapter, I know he can bring the same positive leadership to the National Board as he has brought to the National Capital Chapter. Good luck Raf! There will be a candidacy statement in the next Roundel and presumably on the CCA website. You can also take a look on the NCC website at http://www.nccbmwcca.org. It is important that you save your mailing label from your Roundel. Associate members will receive a voting card in the mail. -- ...steven National Capital Chapter, BMW CCA ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 13:58:16 -0800 From: kkiely <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: [E36] Horrible cold-start consumption Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Pavel, I don't think vacuuming the area near the pumps or senders is a good idea even if dry. If you hit a connection or hose and it leaks you won't be able to shut off the vacuum fast enough. -Kevin ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:13:39 -0500 From: "Art Ream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OK, Wires and Plugs time now... Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs for a 84 318i M10? Good? Bad? Use something else? Thanks in advance. Art '84 318i M10 E30 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 19:22:32 -0500 From: Steven Schlossman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 7:13 PM -0500 1/2/05, Art Ream wrote: >OK, > > Wires and Plugs time now... Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs >for a 84 318i M10? Good? Bad? Use something else? Everything I have read says not to use them. Maybe there are different types of 4 prong plugs. I use whatever BMW parts sell me. -- ...steven 2006 BMW M2 <wishful thinking> 2003 Mini Cooper S +22000 miles 1996 BMW 328ti +188000 miles 1990 Mazda MX6 +201000 miles ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2005 22:02:59 -0500 From: "KMS- Brett Anderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Don't use platinum plugs in this engine. It doesn't run clean enough to support them. Brett Anderson KMS www.bmwdiffs.com > -----Original Message----- > Wires and Plugs time now... Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs > for a 84 318i M10? Good? Bad? Use something else? > > Thanks in advance. > > Art > '84 318i M10 E30 > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Jan 2005 23:13:33 -0800 From: JKerouac <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Art Ream <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: E30 Yahoo Group <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I agree with Brett, Bosch platinums don't run right in the older motors. Use NGK BP6ET(iirc the p/n correctly). These are listed as Mazda RX7 plugs. Same as the BP6ES but with three electrodes. There's a four electrode version too. Used them for years in both the 4 and 6 cyl big blocks. The hotter the ignition behind them, the better. A Mallory Voltmaster coil and NGK wires as listed for a Honda 1300 or 1500 4 cyl, and a 320i 2.0 liter distributor cap was the rest of my ignition setup. Plug the wires directly onto the plugs, don't use the factory insulators. hth, Barry Art Ream wrote:OK, > Wires and Plugs time now... Does anyone have any thoughts on these plugs >for a 84 318i M10? Good? Bad? Use something else? > Thanks in advance.Art'84 318i M10 E30 > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 06:22:47 -0500 From: "Art Ream" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "E30 Yahoo Group" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Thanks RE: Bosch Platinum Plus 4 Spark Plug Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thanks All, The consensus is NOT to use them at all in the '84 318i M10. I appreciate all your time and will not move forward with the suggestions. Thanks Art '84 318i E30 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 3 Jan 2005 09:02:13 -0600 From: "Dave Miller" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Pavel Tcholakov'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "UUC Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: [E36] Horrible cold-start consumption Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I would change the large O-ring seal, which is the most likely thing to leak when the tank is full. I had to replace mine this year, 95 M3, due to the smell of raw gasoline (petrol) in the car whenever I filled the tank. They are easy to replace and pretty cheap. You do not need to remove the pump or sender to replace them. Just take the ring off and lift the unit up enough to remove the old one and put on the new one. From the pictures, it look like the O-ring has been leaking, also. If you are getting the same cold weather mileage from tank to tank, then you probably do not have a fuel consumption problem, rather a flakey gauge. If you aren't smelling raw fuel anywhere, then you probably do not have a leak. Dave 95M3 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Pavel Tcholakov Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:51 AM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] [E36] Horrible cold-start consumption I think I got it! I took the rear seat out and removed both covers - one's the fuel level sender (this one's on the left), the other one is the pump + 2nd fuel level sender (on the right). This is a right-hand drive car so it might be reversed compared to US cars. The fuel sender on the left hand side was a little dusty under the cover but other than that looking perfect. I took the other side off and - surprise surprise! Much dirtier, and this time it wasn't just dust - it was more like dried up sludge. I scraped as much as I could off with a screw driver and vacuumed both sides. Next thing I noticed is that the little pipe that comes in was not in all the way onto the fitting. Not only that, but the clamp was not the same as the other 3. I took some pictures: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/right_side1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/right_side2.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/right_side3.jpg This is the left side for comparison: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/left_side.jpg The plastic looks much whiter - I wonder if it has been changed? I didn't appear so, if anything my fuel pump has been changed (that's the yellow one) - the carpet and seal around it looked like they've been taken out before. As I tried to tighten up the clamp a bit of fuel squirted out - the pipe was loose! I tightened it as much as I could and started the car. Looked on both sides, no leaks - couldn't see or smell anything. I also looked under/around the manifold and fuel rail - nothing there either. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/manifold1.jpg http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v124/pcholakov/Fuel%20Leak/manifold2.jpg (Nothing notable in the above two pics - just snapped them to show off my clean engine bay :-)) What's also interesting, the fuel gauge now reads maybe about a gallon more in the tank than it did yesterday. Parked in the exact same spot, haven't moved or touched anything else. Now in two years that I've owned the car, this has never happened - it always reads same or less with each successive start. (Usually less if it's overnight.) So even if the leak wasn't a major one it could've affected my fuel reading and thus thrown my MPG calculations off. I would guess somebody changed the fuel pump before (or took it out for some reason), lost the one clamp and didn't fit the pipes properly. I'm definitely gonna go in there again and replace those clamps on the pipes. Should I do anything more? At least I know what it is now, so I'm happy - shouldn't be too expensive to fix either, hopefully. Best regards, Pavel On Thu, 16 Dec 2004 19:27:39 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Pavel, > > I have a 92 325i (non-vanos M50 engine) with 112K on the clock. It's my > daily driver and has the slushbox tranny and gets about 21 to 22 around > town and 28 on the highway driving between 75 and 80. > > One problem I had you may want to check is a fuel hose from the tank to > a fitting below the back seat was leaking sporadically. It was a bugger > to find this leak since it was intermittent buy my independent tech > finally got it in one day when the leak was present and found it and > fixed it. It's fairly easy to get to if you want to check it. Just > remove the lower part of the back seat and then there's a panel you > remove by taking 2 screws out. Mine was on the driver's side. If > you're smelling petrol that may be where it's coming from. > > Oh by the way, I still call it petrol every now and then.....my > excuse....was in Australia this time last year! It's hard to go back to > calling it gas after being there for 6 months. > > Hope this helps and good luck! > > Phil Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(8 messages) **********
