The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 319 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Re: e36 e46 spare tire question <X5> radio/computer display Re: <X5> radio/computer display
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 13:36:16 -0500 From: John Grills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an e36 M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling diameter.... cheers, John Grills NCC-BMWCCA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 11:36:37 -0800 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 10:36 AM 11/21/2006, John Grills wrote: Well, E46M3s don't come with any sort of spare tire, so I assume this is a conventional E46 donut. They come in 16" (I forget the size; there's one in the trunk of my M6) and 17" (125/80/17). I believe E36M3 stock run a slightly smaller rolling diameter than E46s (235/40/17 vs 225/45/17). This would probably only be an issue if you ran it for a period of time on the rear, because of the LSD. Also, the 16" donut may not fit the M3 due to brake size. >Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an e36 >M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling diameter.... > >cheers, >John Grills >NCC-BMWCCA >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:59:30 -0500 From: "Chet Dawes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ah, but the 96+ e36 M3 run a 225/45-17 OE front tire........and what a 245/40-17 rear? with a full size spare fitted with a 225/45-17 from the factory. Regardless if you can get an e46 330i mini-spare, it will fit the e36 M3 as the brakes are larger on the e46 330i. I believe this means you'll need the 17" variety though. In general wheels are all interchangeable between the e36 and e46 provided they have sufficient clearance for wheels (can't put a 15" e36 wheel on the e46 330i for example). Bolt pattern, width and offset should pose no problems. Unless you're talking 'bout thousands of miles I don't think the difference between a 225/45 and 235/40 is significant enough to damage a diff. Then again the mini-spare is not likely going to last that long on the road anyway, and if it does shame on anyone who's tested it in practice. :-) Why the mini-spare preference anyway? Cheers, Chet Dawes (recently purchased my second mini-spare equipped BMW, a 2003 325iT sport wagon) -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kazuto Okayasu Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:37 PM To: UUC Digest Subject: Re: [UUC] e36 e46 spare tire question At 10:36 AM 11/21/2006, John Grills wrote: Well, E46M3s don't come with any sort of spare tire, so I assume this is a conventional E46 donut. They come in 16" (I forget the size; there's one in the trunk of my M6) and 17" (125/80/17). I believe E36M3 stock run a slightly smaller rolling diameter than E46s (235/40/17 vs 225/45/17). This would probably only be an issue if you ran it for a period of time on the rear, because of the LSD. Also, the 16" donut may not fit the M3 due to brake size. >Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an e36 >M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling diameter.... > >cheers, >John Grills >NCC-BMWCCA ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 18:31:06 -0800 (PST) From: Andre Yew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Chet Dawes wrote: > Ah, but the 96+ e36 M3 run a 225/45-17 OE front tire........and what a > 245/40-17 rear? with a full size spare fitted with a 225/45-17 from the > factory. The higher-powered E46 coupes and sedans also ran those sizes and spares for some time. --Andre ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:56:29 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> They are cheap, small and light. On the other hand, one needs someplace to put the full size tire removed from the car. I would like to find a donut spare for my E34, something about 25.8 inches tall that clears 355 or 380 mm brakes Gary Derian > > Why the mini-spare preference anyway? > > Cheers, > Chet Dawes .com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:23:25 -0500 From: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Is this a trick question? E46 M3s don't come with a spare . . . . or do they? Ed John Grills wrote: > Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an e36 M3? > I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling diameter.... ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:21:50 -0500 From: John Grills <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Ed MacVaugh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Ed, You are of course correct. http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pts/236630734.html is what prompted the question, albeit ill-posed. I'm trying to complete a second set of M-Contour wheels for a snow tire fitment and I'd like to sacrifice the spare from my e36M3 a a donor. This seemed like a weight-saving practical way to do that. Thanks for all the discussion on the board! r/jpg On Nov 21, 2006, at 8:23 PM, Ed MacVaugh wrote: > Is this a trick question? > > E46 M3s don't come with a spare . . . . > > or do they? > > Ed > > John Grills wrote: > >> Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an >> e36 M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling >> diameter.... > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ > bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ____ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the > BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 09:10:08 -0800 From: Kazuto Okayasu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 04:21 AM 11/22/2006, John Grills wrote: With the sort of luck I had in finding a 17" donut, it might be easier to find a M Contour. But if you've already snagged the craigslist item, I think you've got yourself a deal. LeatherZ sells that new for $235 (with that cover). >Ed, >You are of course correct. > >http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/pts/236630734.html > >is what prompted the question, albeit ill-posed. I'm trying to >complete a second set of M-Contour wheels for a snow tire fitment and >I'd like to sacrifice the spare from my e36M3 a a donor. > >This seemed like a weight-saving practical way to do that. > >Thanks for all the discussion on the board! > >r/jpg >On Nov 21, 2006, at 8:23 PM, Ed MacVaugh wrote: > >>Is this a trick question? >> >>E46 M3s don't come with a spare . . . . >> >>or do they? >> >>Ed >> >>John Grills wrote: >> >>>Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an >>>e36 M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling >>>diameter.... >>Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/ bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >> >> >>______________________________________________________________________ ____ >>In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the >>BMW CCA. >> >>UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >>Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >>908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Kazuto Okayasu Manager, Desktop Support Services Administrative Computing Services, University of California, Irvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:51:26 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Maverick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just an aside, I am looking for a fresh spare for my 96 318ti Sport with 225/50-16 stock size tires and a 125/90-15R M94 spare. That size tire size is no longer available. I may be able to get a 135/90-15R M94 spare, but is is likely NOS, which means it may rot soon as well. I hear there is a 125 or 115/80-16R M92 wheel tire combination that may work, but still not sure of the NOS/new issue. I also see that a 17" version existed. Any good sugestions? One variable or factor is I am putting on E46 328 300MM front brakes and I am not sure the 15" will even clear yet. Thanks and sorry for making this a longer thread. David Ellsworth -----Original Message----- >From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Nov 21, 2006 8:59 PM >To: UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> >Subject: Re: [UUC] e36 e46 spare tire question > >Ah, but the 96+ e36 M3 run a 225/45-17 OE front tire........and what a >245/40-17 rear? with a full size spare fitted with a 225/45-17 from the >factory. >Regardless if you can get an e46 330i mini-spare, it will fit the e36 M3 as >the brakes are larger on the e46 330i. I believe this means you'll need the >17" variety though. In general wheels are all interchangeable between the >e36 and e46 provided they have sufficient clearance for wheels (can't put a >15" e36 wheel on the e46 330i for example). Bolt pattern, width and offset >should pose no problems. > >Unless you're talking 'bout thousands of miles I don't think the difference >between a 225/45 and 235/40 is significant enough to damage a diff. Then >again the mini-spare is not likely going to last that long on the road >anyway, and if it does shame on anyone who's tested it in practice. :-) > >Why the mini-spare preference anyway? > >Cheers, >Chet Dawes >(recently purchased my second mini-spare equipped BMW, a 2003 325iT sport >wagon) > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kazuto Okayasu >Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 2:37 PM >To: UUC Digest >Subject: Re: [UUC] e36 e46 spare tire question > > >At 10:36 AM 11/21/2006, John Grills wrote: > >Well, E46M3s don't come with any sort of spare tire, so I assume this >is a conventional E46 donut. They come in 16" (I forget the size; >there's one in the trunk of my M6) and 17" (125/80/17). I believe >E36M3 stock run a slightly smaller rolling diameter than E46s >(235/40/17 vs 225/45/17). This would probably only be an issue if >you ran it for a period of time on the rear, because of the LSD. > >Also, the 16" donut may not fit the M3 due to brake size. > >>Does anyone know if an e46 M3 spare donut tire will work on an e36 >>M3? I would assume it would, but my concern is rolling diameter.... >> >>cheers, >>John Grills >>NCC-BMWCCA > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 20:39:17 -0800 (PST) From: "Kazuto Okayasu" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: e36 e46 spare tire question Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Just an aside, I am looking for a fresh spare for my 96 318ti Sport with > 225/50-16 stock size tires and a 125/90-15R M94 spare. That size tire > size is no longer available. I may be able to get a 135/90-15R M94 spare, > but is is likely NOS, which means it may rot soon as well. > > I hear there is a 125 or 115/80-16R M92 wheel tire combination that may > work, but still not sure of the NOS/new issue. I also see that a 17" > version existed. > > Any good sugestions? One variable or factor is I am putting on E46 328 > 300MM front brakes and I am not sure the 15" will even clear yet. > The E46 328/325 brakes means 15s are out. The stock donut on those cars is a 115/90/16. Only 323 and lower cars came with brakes small enough to clear 15s. The 125/80/17 I mentioned (E46 330 spare) will also work and is closer in diameter to those road tires. I would think that the 16" donut is more readily available. I went for a while looking for someone who wanted to dump their 17 donut, but had to break down and buy a new wheel from BMW and tire from TireRack. FWIW, I needed the tire well space in my 325iT for my a/d/s amp, and it has 330 front brakes, and my M6 needed a spare to replace the TRX that was still back there, so the M inherited the 16" donut. -- Kazuto Okayasu Administrative Computing Services University of California, Irvine ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:47:13 -0600 (CST) From: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: <X5> radio/computer display Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gruupe: 2002 X5. Radio/computer display has lost rows (all the way across the display) at the top and bottom. Not like my E36 where a bulb goes out and part of the display goes dim... here, the entire top and bottom rows of pixels are totally dark. How is that possible? Anybody understand how this works and what I can do to fix it? - Kevin Jay '96 328is, red/tan, 98K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 55K, bone stock ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 22 Nov 2006 00:55:17 -0500 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, UUC Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: <X5> radio/computer display Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Take a trip to your local dealer. Your model year suggest you're out of warranty by months, not years, and your mileage is within line for a self authorized warranty repair by the dealer. Dealer service managers have the ability to offer out of warranty repairs to a good customer for 12 months or at least 10K miles after the official warranty runs out. Brett Anderson KMS Kevin Jay (Mr.Fabulous) wrote: > Gruupe: > > 2002 X5. Radio/computer display has lost rows (all the way across the > display) at the top and bottom. Not like my E36 where a bulb goes out and > part of the display goes dim... here, the entire top and bottom rows of pixels > are totally dark. How is that possible? Anybody understand how this works > and what I can do to fix it? > > - Kevin Jay > '96 328is, red/tan, 98K, usual H&R/Bilstein setup, a few M3 parts too > '02 X5 3.0, white/tan, 55K, bone stock > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(12 messages) **********
