The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 419 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 S50 Pistons 5 brand new 1 with valve nick Re: S50 pistons Re: was Geneve Preview of new M3, now weights FW: [ot] mercedes in miami
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 14:20:24 -0500 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ben Keyes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> True, but by the time you install the larger brakes, tires, exhaust, clutch and transmission, limited slip, fancy seats, etc. the weight goes up quite a lot. Gary Derian > > tho a lot of the lighter weight cars I noted in an earlier post are > boring econoboxes & whatnot, there's no reason you couldn't > put a higher powered engine into one of them & have what they've > had in europe for 20+ years - a proper, lightweight hot hatch in > the mold of the original 205 GTi or 105 Rallye. even tho you'd end > up with something heavier & more like a current Clio 197, you'd have > usable performance in a fun package. tho the current VW GTi > basically offers that, it's grown to something more than "small" > size over the years. ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 11:46:59 -0500 (GMT-05:00) From: Chet Dawes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Matt Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Matt, The factory exhaust system weights ~100 lbs (46 in the cat-bak muffler). The spare tire/tools and trunk lining are significant as is the split/folding rear seat backs. All easy to remove. The A/C system has significant weight and that H/K amplifier and speakers weigh a ton. Front factory sport seats are about 60+lbs each without power. Sparco/Recaro/etc. are sub-20 lbs each. You can save another 5-10 lbs of rotating unsprung mass with a wheel/tire change from stock. How much 'comfort' are you willing to give up for some weight reduction? The cash output does not have to be extreme either. You can easily get that M3 well below 3000 lbs without much discomfort or $$. That said; the Integra is a very good car. Cheers, Chet Dawes -----Original Message----- >From: Matt Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Sent: Mar 7, 2007 12:01 PM >To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >Subject: Re: [UUC] Geneve Preview of new M3 > >Yes, I am just thinking about ways to lighten my E36 M3. But it's a four >door so I have heard options are limited for carbon fiber hoods, truck lids, >etc. At 3175 it's still way too heavy for my tastes. I used to driver an >early model Acura integra. Week engine by today's standards as well, but >the car only weighed 2300 lbs, and the engine revved quite happily and had a >great shifter. > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Alan Selleck >Sent: Wednesday, March 07, 2007 10:51 AM >To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com >Subject: Re: [UUC] Geneve Preview of new M3 > >The most fun I have driving is with my '65 Porsche 356SC coupe. It is >"underpowered" by today's standards (~100hp, 2000#), but I can throw it >around on twisties, and feel as if I'm part of the car. My '85 535i >(290k miles, original engine) is still fun with it's 180hp, and it's >3400#. But, the heavier you go, the more power you need to maintain the >performance, with necessary braking and tire size increase, and you lose >the feeling of being one with the car. Economy goes out the window, and >it's unneccesary. My $.02. > >Mark Selleck > >Mitchell, Philip S wrote: > >> It is amazing at the performance >>gains that you reap when you shed weight. Acceleration, agility, >cornering, >>braking all go through the roof with the added benefit of improved fuel >>economy. The other trade offs are comfort and durability. They haven't >>built a Lotus yet that would last the 230k miles that I have on my 97 740i >>without a couple of complete rebuilds. There must be a middle ground. >> >> >> >> > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > > >Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > >__________________________________________________________________________ >In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > >UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate >Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! >908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 08 Mar 2007 09:55:03 -0800 From: Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Cc: Matt Bader <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Rex Tener <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: Geneve Preview of new M3 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:46 AM 3/8/2007, Chet Dawes wrote: >You can easily get that M3 well below 3000 lbs without much discomfort or $$. I agree. The Vic Sias SCCA Street Mod car has a full interior and weighs in the 2600 pound range. They are allowed to remove the rear seat only and alternate hoods, front fenders, and front fascias. However, you don't loose 600 pounds off of that car with that alone. Rex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 7 Mar 2007 21:31:53 -0800 (PST) From: Kyle Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: UUC BMW LIST <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: S50 Pistons 5 brand new 1 with valve nick Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all, I have come up with a set of 5 brand new S50/US 10.5 CR 85.97MM and One piston that has been run for about 1000 miles but has a valve nick and some other spots on the top of the pistons. Check out the pictures. My question is can this piston be saved? All pistons have brand new rings. I know brand new this set would get over $1000 bucks. Anyone need 5 pistons? How much do you think I can get for this set? Thanks Kyle Sanchez <http://home.comcast.net/~rj.dk.sanchez/pistons.s50.set.jpg> <http://home.comcast.net/~rj.dk.sanchez/piston.6.s50.valve.nic.jpg> <http://home.comcast.net/~rj.dk.sanchez/piston.6.s50.jpg> ____________________________________________________________________________________ Don't pick lemons. See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 05:14:51 -0800 (PST) From: Phil Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: S50 pistons Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I had a similar situation on a piston and had a local machine shop clean it up - worked fine but this was not in a high compression - performance engine - after he was done you could not hardly tell it had been damaged - if the ring lands have any damage i would not use it. Good luck Phil ____________________________________________________________________________________ Bored stiff? Loosen up... Download and play hundreds of games for free on Yahoo! Games. http://games.yahoo.com/games/front ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:08:38 -0500 From: "Jason Kay" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "UUC Digest" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: was Geneve Preview of new M3, now weights Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> My apologies... I was looking at GVW (GROSS Vehicle Weight) on the door jam (list at slightly over 3494#... The owners' manual does state CURB weight at 2679# WITH all the heavy options that I'm lacking (like sunroof, power seats, upgrades stereo...) The Porsche 944 Turbo still weights 3100lbs from the factory (mine is less due to removal of power seats, rear seat backs, lighter exhaust...) The 240Z was listed at 2300#, plus 200-300 for the dealer installed A/C.... I'm still not going there though for the 325ix :) -Jason '86 951 "Sparky" '70 240Z "Dusty" '03 325xi "Daisy" '06 Mini CooperS > Well, even the MINI (BMW) checks in at a mighty 3400+lbs! > Any mfg. will be hard pressed to mfg. a new vehicle that passes emissions and > crash safety tests and still weighs less than 3K #... > > (The P-car Carbon-Fiber Carerra GT still clocks in over 3000#!) > To break into the sub 3K# range, one must look back to the late 80's E30s or > 911SC's... > > -Jason > '86 951 "Sparky" (3100+lbs) > '70 240Z "Dusty" (2600+lbs) > '03 325xi "Daisy"(just not going there) > '06 Mini CooperS (3400+lbs) > > > > They are all tubs of lard IMHO. Heck I'll even put my e36M3 tin that > > category (oh the heresy). What we need is a new M1 Coupe, and a > > Touring variant just for grins. > > > > The more I drive my 2610 lb e30 318is, the more I appreciate > > lightness and wonderful balance....where is that car in the current > > lineup? > > > > cheers! > > John Grills > > NCC-BMWCCA > > 98 M3/4 > > 91 318is > > 88 M3 > > 87 Cabrio (soon to live in sunny Florida) > > > > > > On Mar 6, 2007, at 2:10 PM, Matt Murray wrote: > > > > > Somehow, it just looks too heavy. An illness the more current BMWs > > > are afflicted with. :^( > > > > > > Matt Murray > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jason Kay" > > > > > > > > >> http://jalopnik.com/cars/concept-cars/geneva-premiere-bmw-m3- > > >> concept-241905.php > > >> > > >> Enjoy! > > >> > > >> -Jason ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 14:42:07 -0500 From: Dennis Liu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'The FerrariList'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "BMW List" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Cc: "'Mike Wilson'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: FW: [ot] mercedes in miami Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> A good friend of mine needs some help down in Miami. Anyone? >I am considering a Mercedes SL65 that is in Miami at VA Leasing (aka Equity Auto Leasing). >Is there someone in the area who might be interested in staring at such a car? Anyone who might know things about VA Leasing, good or bad? >Thanks, Michael Wilson in Massachusetts (please copy him directly on responses, [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Thanks! Vty, --Dennis ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(7 messages) **********
