The BMW UUC Digest Volume 3 : Issue 512 : "text" Format Messages in this Issue: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring adhesives Re: adhesives Re: adhesives Re: adhesives Re: adhesives
---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 16:13:27 -0700 From: "Kevin Kelly" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "BMW BMW BMW BMW" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Great vintage super 8 footage of Germans (includign some in 2002s) going too fast on the ring: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=640695539059738855&hl=en-GB Kevin Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:01:48 -0400 From: "Matt Bader" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Kevin Kelly'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "'BMW BMW BMW BMW'" <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Interesting stuff. Cars seem to roll over pretty damn easily! Matt Bader 98 M3/4 Delaware -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin Kelly Sent: Monday, June 25, 2007 7:13 PM To: BMW BMW BMW BMW Subject: [UUC] Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Great vintage super 8 footage of Germans (includign some in 2002s) going too fast on the ring: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=640695539059738855&hl=en-GB Kevin Kelly Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:02:51 -0400 From: KMS- Brett Anderson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: uuc Digest <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I especially love the VW driver who ends up sitting beside the car.... Brett Anderson KMS Matt Bader wrote: > Interesting stuff. Cars seem to roll over pretty damn easily! > > Matt Bader > 98 M3/4 > Delaware > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=640695539059738855&hl=en-GB ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:07:50 -0400 From: Jay Kenty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: Vintage Footage of 2002s on the Ring Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I love the VW convertible with three passengers- who probably regret their decision to trust that driver... Jay Kenty RI Kevin Kelly wrote: > Great vintage super 8 footage of Germans (includign some in 2002s) > going too fast on the ring: > > http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=640695539059738855&hl=en-GB > > Kevin Kelly > Search the > ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 13:14:49 -0700 (PDT) From: roland beaudette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: adhesives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> So Ebay has cheap lip spoilers and I convinced myself that $25 was a low risk investment. The spoiler is about 2" wide and uses two strips of double sided adhesive tape. This sounds like an opportunity to loose my valuable investment when it debonds at 70 mph. Any suggestions on a suitable supplemental adhesive? Preferably one that requires minimal prep of the paint (sand to bare metal, etc). I could go with mechanical fasteners but the lip is rather thin. Drilling up from under the trunk would require better precision that I have. Fastening from the top looks cheesy? Maybe if the heads were countersunk it wouldn't be so bad. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Roland ____________________________________________________________________________________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 15:21:47 -0500 From: "Jamie Howton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "roland beaudette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: adhesives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > So Ebay has cheap lip spoilers and I convinced myself > that $25 was a low risk investment. The spoiler is > about 2" wide and uses two strips of double sided > adhesive tape. The BMW ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 17:13:56 -0400 From: "Gary Derian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "roland beaudette" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: adhesives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Double side foam tape is very strong. How high is the spoiler? Aero pressure is 1/2 rho v^2 where (greek letter) rho is the air density. Run some numbers and test the grip. Rho for air is 0.075 lb per ft^3. 70 mph is 103 ft/s, 32.2 lb-s^2/ft to convert weight to mass, so aero pressure at 70 is about 12 lb per ft^2. Assume a drag coefficient of 1 and that is a good first estimate. Gary Derian > So Ebay has cheap lip spoilers and I convinced myself > that $25 was a low risk investment. The spoiler is > about 2" wide and uses two strips of double sided > adhesive tape. > > This sounds like an opportunity to loose my valuable > investment when it debonds at 70 mph. Any suggestions > on a suitable supplemental adhesive? Preferably one > that requires minimal prep of the paint (sand to bare > metal, etc). > > I could go with mechanical fasteners but the lip is > rather thin. Drilling up from under the trunk would > require better precision that I have. Fastening from > the top looks cheesy? Maybe if the heads were > countersunk it wouldn't be so bad. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Roland > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 16:22:10 -0500 From: "Paul Garnier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: adhesives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gary, Your nerd is showing... ;-) Roland, stick it on and if it's still there after hittin; 100, tain't goin nowhere! Paul Garnier FastNetworking.com 281-827-0725 -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gary Derian Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:14 PM To: roland beaudette; bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: Re: [UUC] adhesives Double side foam tape is very strong. How high is the spoiler? Aero pressure is 1/2 rho v^2 where (greek letter) rho is the air density. Run some numbers and test the grip. Rho for air is 0.075 lb per ft^3. 70 mph is 103 ft/s, 32.2 lb-s^2/ft to convert weight to mass, so aero pressure at 70 is about 12 lb per ft^2. Assume a drag coefficient of 1 and that is a good first estimate. Gary Derian > So Ebay has cheap lip spoilers and I convinced myself > that $25 was a low risk investment. The spoiler is > about 2" wide and uses two strips of double sided > adhesive tape. > > This sounds like an opportunity to loose my valuable > investment when it debonds at 70 mph. Any suggestions > on a suitable supplemental adhesive? Preferably one > that requires minimal prep of the paint (sand to bare > metal, etc). > > I could go with mechanical fasteners but the lip is > rather thin. Drilling up from under the trunk would > require better precision that I have. Fastening from > the top looks cheesy? Maybe if the heads were > countersunk it wouldn't be so bad. > > Any thoughts would be appreciated. > > Roland > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ > Looking for earth-friendly autos? > Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. > http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ > Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com > > > __________________________________________________________________________ > In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. > > UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate > Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! > 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 21:33:57 -0400 From: "Karl Zemlin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com> Subject: Re: adhesives Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> The key to good stick with anything is a well prepared surface. Wax and/or silicone are your enemies. Get the area good and clean. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of roland beaudette Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2007 4:15 PM To: bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com Subject: [UUC] adhesives So Ebay has cheap lip spoilers and I convinced myself that $25 was a low risk investment. The spoiler is about 2" wide and uses two strips of double sided adhesive tape. This sounds like an opportunity to loose my valuable investment when it debonds at 70 mph. Any suggestions on a suitable supplemental adhesive? Preferably one that requires minimal prep of the paint (sand to bare metal, etc). I could go with mechanical fasteners but the lip is rather thin. Drilling up from under the trunk would require better precision that I have. Fastening from the top looks cheesy? Maybe if the heads were countersunk it wouldn't be so bad. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Roland ____________________________________________________________________________ ________ Looking for earth-friendly autos? Browse Top Cars by "Green Rating" at Yahoo! Autos' Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/ Search the ARCHIVES:http://www.mail-archive.com/bmwuucdigest@uucdigest.com __________________________________________________________________________ In memory of Michel Potheau - friend, enthusiast, founder of the BMW CCA. UUC Motorwerks - BMW Performance Fine-tuning and home of the Ultimate Short Shifter - accept no substitutes! 908-874-9092 . http://www.uucmotorwerks.com ------------------------------ End of [bmwuucdigest] digest(9 messages) **********