From: "Jan Coffey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<snipped proposition from Jeroen> I don't know that I trust him to live up to his end. As long as he has access to the list archives, I don't trust him to truly leave the list alone. I am fine with the suggestion. The way I see it, the list was already living up to that until he rang back in reply to a message I posted that was not meant as an attack on him, I mearly repeated a comparison that someone had made *off-list*. I regret having posted that message for various reasons and I have said as much in one of my replies to it. The list hasn't been engaging in any Jeroen-bashing for some time now (since he stopped the mass mailings the first time), and we can not really control the words/actions of a few listmembers who may privately decide to continue speeking ill of Jeroen in private emails and personal blogs, nor should we be expected to. All of this started again when he chose to restart the mass mailings again (I wonder if he can see the causality there). I will not engage in any Jeroen bashing, I never have. I just don't believe he'll stay away from the list like he says he will. As long as he has access to the archives on Yahoo... I believe that he has the will to stay away if he wanted to, but I don't see him wanting to, especially as he makes another plee to be let back on-list in this message. If he will, as an act of good faith, delete the Brin-L "Wall of Shame" (AKA "About the old Brin-L") as soon as possible, rather than a few weeks from now, I would be more inclined to believe the authenticity of this offer he is making. Either way, I was living up to the terms of it before, and I have no intent of changing that. I hope he really does live up to his side of the bargain though, as I feel he really needs to take a step away from this list and try to regain his perspective. If he can regain some perspective and demonstrate that his attitude towards the list and it's members has changed, then I would be very willing to argue for his return to the list in the future. Michael Harney [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much... the wheel, New York, wars, and so on, whilst all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely the dolphins believed themselves to be more intelligent than man for precisely the same reasons." - Douglas Adams _______________________________________________ http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
