--- Alberto Monteiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Jan Coffey wrote:
> >
> [[BTW: you were so angry when you replied that it
> showed in many typographical errors...]]
>
You should never make such assumptions. I do not make typographical errors. I
make spelling errors becouse I am Dyslexic. This topic has been beat to death
but if you want to learn more about dyslexia or why spell checkers do not
solve the problem , i would be glad to entertain the conversation.
As far as my emotional state goes, yes a few years ago (still in the hight of
the DotCom bubble) I was angry. Then it was H1's finding advancement over
those with greencards or citizenship not becouse of their skill, abillity, or
commitment, but becouse they were nearly or just as good, but for less money.
I was angry becouse as more and more H1's were at work the culture shifted to
be ~their~ culture. It became difficult to get anything done at work in
English, and although I do speak a bit of Chinese, it's not enough to get by
at work, and I know only a couple of words in Hindi. BTW my wife is Chinese
and my best friend is Indian. (But they don't have class systems, or
racesism, and they use a language everyone can understand at work).
I was angry when majority of Indeans made it into managment positions they
had no quams about continuing their class system and racesism in the
workplace. They treated women deploribly, and worked people like slaves. it
got so bad at one point at Oracle that one whole team slept under their desks
at work for over a month. Then all the GCs and Citazens quit, or moved to
other groups. The brain drain on that project finaly made it fail. There are
several law suits right now against Oracle for such goings on and even worse.
Including one Indean woan ho was forced by her Indean boss to preform sexual
favors or loose her job.
It is unfortnate that Indiean society has not yet slufed off the class system
and still has less reguard for women than for men. And this isn't allways the
case with all Indeans, but it IS the case, to deny it is only to allow it to
continue.
I was angry when I saw frieds who labored to build start-ups for half of what
they could have been makeing elsewhere and who showed the highest degree of
loyalty and work ethic booted out of their jobs just before their options
vested and replaced by H1's who would work for next to nothing with hardly no
options.
I was angry when 7 groups at Seible were asked to train the Indeans who would
replace them, all the while being promised that they were not going to loose
their jobs.
It would be one thing if the Indean and Chinese corporations could do the
same work, but when they have not recieved the same training. In my
experience they do not understand object Oriented Design, or much at all
about modern software development. They Indean and Chinese schools are simply
not up to par.
And this makes me angry becouse just as the DotCom failed becouse of over
zelous expectations coupled with crap for code, now the same will happen to
the rest of the technology sector. Unless of course the Indean and Chinese
education system steps up (and I would be glad for them to do so). But then
that would also mean that all of my profesion would be moved off-shore.
You don't think that when that happens they will hier Americans there, let
our culture take over their company, and shift all buisness to being spoken
in English...do you?
=====
_________________________________________________
Jan William Coffey
_________________________________________________
__________________________________
Do you Yahoo!?
Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software
http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com
_______________________________________________
http://www.mccmedia.com/mailman/listinfo/brin-l
