I don't know of any really good CFC resources off the top of my head. But i
do know that there's a gap here. On one side are the people who've been
trained as programmers. For them, the words instantiation, inheritance,
composition, service layer, factory, DAO, gateway, ORM, and all the rest of
these terms we see used on the lists are as clear and understandable as car,
dog, and cat are for the rest of us.

I would think that most people would be too embarrassed to ask "What do you
mean by instantiation"? in the middle of a very heated discussion about
whether or not ColdSpring should be used to instantiate transients.

And then the next question would be "What's a transient?"

So perhaps they head on over to coldspringframework.org and start to read
the documentation ...

ColdSpring is a inversion-of-control framework/container for CFCs
(ColdFusion Components). Inversion of Control, or IoC, is synonymous with
Dependency Injection, or DI. Dependency Injection is an easier term to
understand because it's a more accurate description of what ColdSpring does.

And think ... "Ummm, this is way over my head. I'm not ready for this yet."
... because they're confronted with a bunch of terms they've never used.

"And it says there that Dependency Injection is an easier term to understand
... "

But the simple truth is you don't need to conceptually understand a thing
about IoC or DI or whatever else is written there to use ColdSpring, any
more than you need to understand exactly how the engine of your car works in
order to drive it, or how to design and build a car engine for that matter.



On 3/13/07, Josen Ruiseco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 Nando,

I am bugging you... write a series of blog posts called "Rediscovering
CFCs"... =)

There are others on this list hiding in the corners of the room that will
echo my bugging request...

In the meantime, perhaps you can point us to the best couple of CFC
references out there?

Josen

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Nando
*Sent:* Tuesday, March 13, 2007 1:06 PM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [CFCDEV] "Light" framework?

Joe,

I know Model-Glue doesn't look "light" - but if you use the quick start
guide and just try to actually build something, you might find it a lot
lighter than it looks at first.

And you don't really need to know much OO to use it. In fact you don't
need to know *any*. You just need to try it out, work through the quick
start guide and actually build something simple, and ask a few questions to
the list and you'll know how to use MG. It takes an evening or two to get
started, and most of the work is just figuring out how to install everything
and what IDE to use for the XML part.

The reason i'm suggesting this is because with the integration of Transfer
and ColdSpring, MG makes it *very* easy to build applications. Some very
smart people have done a lot of work and a lot of thinking for you. You may
find yourself doing a lot more work and a lot more thinking with a "Light"
framework ... especially if you build it yourself! (I'm speaking from
experience here!)

I actually think MG is a little easier than Fusebox to learn. Many people
may be used to the Fusebox concepts of circuits and fuseactions and plugins
and plugin points, etc so perhaps it seems easier in the CF community. I
think MG is simpler in the sense that there is just a simple XML language to
learn and you just glue your model and view together there.

If you're not familiar at all with using CFC's, well that's a prerequisite
for MG. But if you are, you'll find that you won't have to do much if any OO
design or thinking to build an application. If you use Transfer and
ColdSpring with it (both are very easy to pick up if you just *try* them
out) just about the only thing you *may* need to figure out in an OO sense
is to add a service layer to your application rather than doing everything
in the controller. And that's easy too, once you get past the lingo and see
what it means.*

*(It means instead of the controller doing the actual work, it asks
another CFC to do it. The advantage this gives you, if and when you need it,
is another application can ALSO ask the service layer to do the same things.
In other words, separating out the service layer gives you the freedom to
have different "bosses" asking the "workers" - service components - to do
their jobs.)

That's pretty much the only OO you'll need to know to build some pretty
robust applications using MG. But if you don't know how to use CFC's ...
ummm, i was going to say then Fusebox is your only choice, but i changed my
mind ... bug me and i'll write a series a blog posts called Rediscovering
CFC's, and then you'll know how!

:-) Nando



Joe Lakey wrote:

Is there a "light" CF framework--something that we novice coders with
little or no OO background could use to transition to the more elegant,

comprehensive frameworks?

If not, I'd like to know if there's any interest in creating one. I
would work on it myself, but seeing as I'm only barely familiar with the
existing frameworks, I'm not very well qualified to build any kind of

bridge to them.

Thanks,
Joe


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