On 9/25/07, Alex Queiroz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 9/25/07, Peter Bex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 25, 2007 at 09:04:19AM -0400, William Ramsay wrote:
> > > Why would anyone use anything else?
> > Would you mind convincing my boss? :)
> Get into the queue! :-)
For what it's worth, I *did* convince my boss; I've used Chicken to
write a set of Web applications to supplement one of our campus
systems. None of the apps was supposed to last more than a semester --
we expected that the primary system itself would grow the same
features during that time -- so they were somewhat willing to let me
take a couple risks. But that was two semesters ago, and the Chicken
apps are still in business.
They've only served about 2 million requests so far (about 10,000 per
day right now), which is far from huge, but they can take a heavier
load. Lord knows I've had a couple problems with them (mostly
self-inflicted ones), but overall it's been a tremendous win.
Some of the things I would have used in my elevator pitch for Chicken
(keeping in mind that Web apps are my thing):
- running an application in a REPL (no compilation step; redefine
anything you want, any time) is the rapidest development environment
you can get, bar none.
- It's also a great maintenance environment; almost all bugs can be
corrected live, without restarting a single process.
- works with all major databases (don't use that Fawcett guy's Oracle
driver, though, it's a piece of crap); works great without them,
- can use third-party libraries written in C, Java, Python.
- You can compile the stuff that needs to run faster. Web apps don't
tend to have too many hotspots, though.
- Chicken and Scheme are relatively easy to learn, and there are
plenty of resources available.
- works great in a Unix environment, where forking processes is cheap:
you can write small, fast programs that are suitable for Unix-style
design (forks, pipes, etc.). Try *that* with Java. This is a good
approach for shared-nothing, highly-scalable apps. Not that I wrote
mine that way... ;-)
- What the community lacks in size, it makes up for in brain-power and
Everyone here knows that stuff, of course. ;-)
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