So true Rashid, it's a scandal that the people who are supposed to be helping us are under so much pressure from special interests that they forgot who they are hired to help - US~. So, one has to be knowledgeable and not stupid. Trust the ones you can, and beware of the rest. I am on a campaign to get people to be more aware, more knowledgeable, and more discerning about the information they are confronted with. And to get people to read and research more!
What you are doing is so inspiring. I wish you all success in the New Year. Best, Diann Dirks Certified Permaculture Designer 678 26-8141 Auburn, Ga. ----- Original Message ----- From: K. Rashid Nuri To: Jama Crawford ; Diann Dirks ; W Ontiveros ; community_garden@list.communitygarden.org Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2011 1:19 AM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? happy new year the united states government promotes too many things indeed hazardous to health. one can find reports to support almost any position. the power companies have a well-paid lobby in d.c. you only see people living under these lines in poor neighbohoods, not amongst the country club set. why not? the service would be closer to the source. K. Rashid Nuri Truly Living Well P.O. Box 90841 East Point GA 30364 Phone: 404 520 8331 www.trulylivingwell.com It is simply service that measures success. - George Washington Carver ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: Jama Crawford <j...@frontier.net> To: K. Rashid Nuri <ad...@trulylivingwell.com>; Diann Dirks <didi...@comcast.net>; W Ontiveros <wontive...@gmail.com>; community_garden@list.communitygarden.org Sent: Mon, January 3, 2011 1:13:25 AM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? It may be useful to review literature on power line health effects published by the US Dept of Health. I admit I wouldn't want to garden under a power line either, but most of my apprehension is probably due to frequent reports of the hazards, which this article indicates are unproven. http://www.hps.org/hpspublications/articles/powerlines.html Jama Crawford Shared Harvet Durango CO ----- Original Message ----- From: "K. Rashid Nuri" <ad...@trulylivingwell.com> To: "Diann Dirks" <didi...@comcast.net>; "W Ontiveros" <wontive...@gmail.com>; <community_garden@list.communitygarden.org> Sent: Saturday, January 01, 2011 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? > with all respect to my colleague diann, i have seen a lot of food grown under > power lines in california. land under high power lines is very dangerous. check > the research and see how high the incidences of cancer is for residents living > there. would not recommend anyone growing food in such places. even if people > are only there for a few hours, the food will be there to collect the energy > which is out of balance. > > K. Rashid Nuri > > Truly Living Well > P.O. Box 90841 > East Point GA 30364 > Phone: 404 520 8331 > www.trulylivingwell.com > > It is simply service that measures success. - George Washington Carver > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Diann Dirks <didi...@comcast.net> > To: W Ontiveros <wontive...@gmail.com>; > community_garden@list.communitygarden.org > Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 12:00:21 PM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? > > How about asking for land under the high power lines and space along the L.A. > River? The spaces are sometimes leased by landscape companies for growing stock, > but not all of it is used. One wouldn't want to spend a great deal of time under > those lines but keeping a garden a couple of hours a week wouldn't be too tough > I wouldn't imagine. Also, there are some large parks in L.A. which have some > unused land. That's a possibility. And vacant lots can be looked into. I lived > in L.A. and saw a lot of land unused. Not huge amounts but being resourceful I > know more space can be found. Just drive around and spot unused land. Possibly > if it's in a neighborhood and is owned by someone, but being unused, the owner > can be contacted and make a deal with them to lease the land and pay something - > makes a great tax write-off. > > Guerilla gardening is also a possibility - using land unused by just planting on > it, here and there. I have heard stories in NY about vacant land being planted > on from the back to the front year after year, and eventually having the city > give them the land because it's already established and community building. > > Hope this helps, > Diann Dirks > ----- Original Message ----- From: "W Ontiveros" <wontive...@gmail.com> > To: <community_garden@list.communitygarden.org> > Sent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 10:27 AM > Subject: Re: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? > > >> Our garden opened in 2009 and we have 30 raised beds in a densly populated >> neigborhood 5 miles northeast of downtown Los Angeles. We've leased the >> land from the city's Department of Transporation. Our plots are assigned >> based on a weighted lottery - applicants living closest to the garden >> receive 3 chances, those who live in the zip code 2 chances, and all others >> receive one chance. >> >> Our plot term is currently 2 years. We have no term limits. However, after >> the 2 year term, all gardeners who wish to renew must reapply and take their >> chances in the lottery. >> >> We decided on this process to be fair to all stakeholders and ensure that >> all applicants have a chance to get a plot. A few gardeners were resistant >> to this process. However, by and large our gardeners understand that the >> person who didn't get a plot the first go around deserves a chance to >> garden, too. >> >> Virtually all gardens in the L.A. metropolitan area have extensive waiting >> lists. Santa Monica city has some of the longest wating lists. >> They discussed term limits for their gardens, but backed off due to >> community resistance. We do have some new gardens in the works. However, >> demand for garden plots here always seems to outrip supply. Suitable vacant >> land is also scarce here. I don't see it getting any easier to establish >> more gardens here anytime soon. >> >> >> -Warren >> Milagro Allegro Community Garden >> http://hpgarden.org >> >> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: William Maynard <wmayn...@cityofsacramento.org> >>> To: "'community_garden@list.communitygarden.org'" < >>> community_garden@list.communitygarden.org> >>> Date: Tue, 28 Dec 2010 20:42:18 +0000 >>> Subject: [Community_garden] Term Limits for Community Garden Plots? >>> All >>> >>> With all the demand for community garden plots.. wondering if there are any >>> community gardens out there that have a term limit as to how long that you >>> can keep a plot? >>> >>> Unlimited number of years? Or X number of years? >>> >>> And the procedures of filling the plots if there is a term limit.. lottery >>> of all current gardeners and those on waiting list? How long are the term >>> limits? >>> >>> We all know that we need more gardens and the benefits of keeping the same >>> plot year after year..build soil and community etc.. just wondering about >>> term limits on plots if anyone has them in place and how its working. >>> >>> Thanks.. More Gardens! >>> >>> bill >>> >>> >>> >> -------------- next part -------------- >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... >> URL: >> <http://list.communitygarden.org/pipermail/community_garden_list.communitygarden.org/attachments/20101229/dc7997a6/attachment.html> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> The American Community Gardening Association listserve is only one of ACGA's >> services to community gardeners. 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