-Caveat Lector-

The concept of liberty was later extended to women, blacks and other
minorities...but for years the Constitution was interpreted in such a way
that the liberty of some of us (who now enjoy it today) was consistently
and flagrantly denied.

Britain outlawed slavery BEFORE the United States did.  As far as Native
Americans go, they were not considered citizens of this country during the
nineteenth century...   Suffrage for women...well, my grandmother was one
of the ladies who fought for that...  Black Americans?  Jim Crow (the
separate but equal doctrine) lasted well into the nineteen fifties and
nineteen sixties...  So, in terms of "liberty," I think it is a matter of
how these concepts are interpreted.. and if the laws of the land will be
ENFORCED.   Legislative bodies can pass laws that sound great...but if
they aren't enforced, they are worthless..

On Fri, 18 Dec 1998, KA wrote:

>  -Caveat Lector-
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> On Thu, 17 Dec 1998, William Hugh Tunstall wrote:
> >I respectfully disagree with your idea that the nation was founded upon
> >LIBERTY.    first disagreement: Liberty for whom?  White males? Blacks?
> >Women? Native Americans?
>
> It WAS founded on liberty, albeit a flawed one...
>
> But what other country in 1776 (or 1783) gave social and political
> liberty to blacks, women, or native populations?
>
> At least the founding fathers gave us a document whereby we could
> peacefully and legally alter the government via the amendment process, so
> that we COULD at a later date include these populations in the
> electorate...
>
> And they gave us a document that spells out the peaceful and legal
> process whereby the electorate (thru their elected representatives) are
> able to remove officials in public office who are guilty of misconduct in
> office, including the President...
>
>
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