-Caveat Lector- > For example a bat is an intermediate form > between a mammal and a bird. That doesn't prove mammals evolved into > birds.
nor would anybody suggest that they did. birds, like mammals, evolved from reptiles; an intermediate form would be the pteradactyl, which is in the fossil record. it is a "reptile with wings". "fish with legs"? they're in there. the closest thing we have left are salamanders and frogs; ie. amphibians. actually, there's a fish with stumps too - a mudslipper is it? mudhopper? something like that. it can survive on (moist) land for short amounts of time but is still a fish. any first year biology course will be quick to point out other intermediate species still around - the lungfish, etc.. >Whales are intermediate in form between mammals and fish. That > doesn't prove mammals evolve into fish or vice-versa. whales and dolphins are thought to have evolved from what is also a common ancestor of a horse or gazelle and this is in the fossil record. a whale is *not* an intermediate form between a fish and a mammal; it is a mammal that became aquatic due to some reason and may be an intermediate form into something that we don't really know about yet. they're fairly recent creatures on the evolutionary time scale. check out the aquatic ape theory. > The priests of "Scientism" are more dogmatic than a medieval pope. Next, > try asking them about the fact that light speed is not constant it is if you factor in the effects of the medium. nobody has claimed that light travels at a constant speed, only at a constant speed in a uniform medium, which is impossible outside of a vaccuum. a very subtle point but a very, very important one. >and ask > them to give hard data of one case proving empirically that E=Mc2! it *is* a mathematical relation....easily provable using little more than the conservation laws.......but.....how about an atomic explosion? they can't measure it exactly but they can deduce that it's at least pretty close. although i do have to sympathize with this, as i've made clear in the past. especially with theoretical physics and chemistry, which are often times based on derived formulas that are perfectly mathematically consistent but impossible to experimentally verify. inri np: http://chat.carleton.ca/~jparent2/ "there ought to be limits to freedom" - george w. bush "if this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as i'm the dictator." - george w. bush "i'm not going to let congress erode the power of the executive branch" - george w. bush <A HREF="http://www.ctrl.org/";>www.ctrl.org</A> DECLARATION & DISCLAIMER ========== CTRL is a discussion & informational exchange list. Proselytizing propagandic screeds are unwelcomed. Substance�not soap-boxing�please! These are sordid matters and 'conspiracy theory'�with its many half-truths, mis- directions and outright frauds�is used politically by different groups with major and minor effects spread throughout the spectrum of time and thought. That being said, CTRLgives no endorsement to the validity of posts, and always suggests to readers; be wary of what you read. CTRL gives no credence to Holocaust denial and nazi's need not apply. Let us please be civil and as always, Caveat Lector. ======================================================================== Archives Available at: http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html <A HREF="http://peach.ease.lsoft.com/archives/ctrl.html";>Archives of [EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/ <A HREF="http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/";>ctrl</A> ======================================================================== To subscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SUBSCRIBE CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To UNsubscribe to Conspiracy Theory Research List[CTRL] send email: SIGNOFF CTRL [to:] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Om
