-Caveat Lector-

On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, thew wrote:

> on 3/17/02 9:27 PM, Party of Citizens at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 17 Mar 2002, inri wrote:
> >
> >>> For example a bat is an intermediate form
> >>> between a mammal and a bird. That doesn't prove mammals evolved into
> >>> birds.
> >>
> >> nor would anybody suggest that they did.
> >
> > Then why do you assume that birds and mammals evolved from reptiles?
> > POC
> >
>
> Best guess, based on what we know, with the fewest unproved assumptions?

Guessing is guessing.

> (that's called scientific method)

Guessing pushed with arrogant dogma (ie We priests of Scientism MUST be
right and those who say otherwise are crackpots...previously heretics) is
the worst excess of bad religion.

An intermediate form is an intermediate form. It proves nothing. The
intermediate form of a whale is obvious. Its overall body form is
fish-like. It has fin-like flukes..FORM like a fish. That proves:

(a) fish became whales
(b) whales became fish
(c) both of the above
(d) neither of the above

It doesn't prove anything. Valid science is rational-empirical. What we
observe (empiricism) is fish and whales and some creatures like whales
whose morphology is intermediate. Scientism is both religious and
scientific quackery. To reason out (ie rationally) connect fish and whales
by intermediate form you need a mechanism. It isn't small horses asses
becoming big horse's asses that gives you the mechanism. That is called
selection (natural or artificial). It works well for horse's asses. But
you need a horse's ass to start with and apply selection to. Wings and
legs and such are NEW forms. You can apply artificial selection very well
in the lab. It will give you bigger or smaller fins or flukes. It won't
turn a fin into a leg. That requires a mechanism like MUTATION or GENETIC
ENGINEERING. Mutation, as explained already doesn't work because it is
almost always deleterious and even the few adaptive mutations are small in
effect. Yes it is usually random as someone else posted. That is why
Darwinism predicts a fossil record littered with mutations gone wrong.
They aren't there! The fossil record looks more like a GENETIC ENGINEER
HAS BEEN AT WORK. It looks more like "intelligent design".

POC

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