Jason Dillon wrote:
On Dec 4, 2006, at 3:45 AM, John Sisson wrote:
I had a quick look at the AntHill console and it looked pretty cool.
My initial thought was whether we would be discouraging potential
ISVs to use Geronimo as a basis of their solutions by requiring them
to license AntHill if they want to do their own automated
builds/testing of Geronimo (e.g. so they can build and ship their own
fix releases outside the Apache process). The AntHill site does not
list prices, so I can't comment on what licensing of AntHill for a
non-open source version of Geronimo would cost.
What? How did you get the idea that everyone has to use AntHill to
build Geronimo?
I didn't have the idea that everyone has to use AntHill to build
Geronimo. In my first paragraph I was only talking about automated
building/testing.
I just put my ASF hat on and asked myself who is our community? AFAIK
our community includes Geronimo users (both individuals and companies),
Geronimo developers and software vendors that repackage the code and/or
provide support ). I don't currently work for a company that builds or
sells support for Geronimo, so my only motivation here is to ensure
there is community discussion about this proposed move.
I think my last paragraph was confusing. When I wrote it, I was
wondering whether some time in the future, "proper" releases would only
be built, tested and packaged from automated builds and whether it is
realistic for someone to do a full build, test, package manually. Has
Geronimo's building and testing and release packaging has become complex
enough that for an ISV to realistically provide support for Geronimo
they would pretty much need a build and testing automation setup like
you are suggesting? If we tell them they have to license AntHill is
that reasonable? What does the community think?
For example, if a developer without commit access wanted to do automated
builds and testing of modifications to Geronimo on their home PC or at
their company (then is the AntHill license flexible enough to let them
do that, or is the license limited to Apache hardware or individual
Apache committers?
Regards,
John
