Java 8 as a min is fine by me FWIW. Gary
On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 11:07 AM Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> wrote: > Sorry my important typo " I would have a problem with Java 1.8 ". > Correction " I would NOT have a problem with Java 1.8 " > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 5:03 PM Tibor Digana <tibordig...@apache.org> > wrote: > > > This is not very serious discussion since we saw users on our mailing > list > > who said that he is using Java 1.6 compiler and JDK7 in Maven. > > Serious discussion would uncover pros/cons and impact analysis. > > > > I would have a problem with Java 1.8 in target and source code but I have > > problem that we excluded our users from the VOTE. > > Regarding Java 1.7 we clearly uncovered the migration plan, versions of > > plugins, core etc. Here nothing like that exists - only that somebody > > created a Jira ticket. > > > > Technically I would be interested if somebody could explain what NEW > > Security API is in Java 1.8 and performance impact of Streams API. That's > > the impact in the source code. > > Somebody has other questions too. > > Then we can write Wiki as well as rules, conditions and plan. > > > > Cheers > > Tibor17 > > > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 4:55 PM Karl Heinz Marbaise <khmarba...@gmx.de> > > wrote: > > > >> On 03.10.19 14:15, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote: > >> > Strong -1 on Java 8 as the minimum version. Google Cloud Platform has > >> > lots of products and customers that still require Java 7. If Maven > >> > requires Java 8, we'd have to stick to the latest of whichever release > >> > does support Java 7 for at least a year and I'm guessing longer. > >> > >> Hm.. first Java 7 is out for eight years now (2011) (End of live) and > >> has no public updates for security/bug fixes etc. since 2015 > >> > >> Furthermore Java 8 is out for five years (2014) so to be honest I > >> wouldn't trust an environment which is not upgrading etc. in particular > >> in a clould environment... > >> > >> Why hadn't started Google to update their environment over the time to > >> JDK 8 etc. (I think they have much more resources than anyone). > >> > >> > >> One more thing is: > >> There is a difference between running Maven to build for example > >> with JDK 8 and running your resulting artifacts (see toolchain comment > >> from Stephen Connolly.. > >> > >> Kind regards > >> Karl Heinz Marbaise > >> > >> > >> [1]: > https://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/java-se-support-roadmap.html > >> > >> > >> > > >> > On Sat, Sep 28, 2019 at 8:04 AM Robert Scholte <rfscho...@apache.org> > >> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> TLDR; introduce maven.experimental.buildconsumer and push Java > >> requirement > >> >> to Java 8 > >> >> > >> >> now that Maven 3.6.2 is out for a couple of weeks, it seems like we > >> didn't > >> >> face real regressions. > >> >> The only one might be tricky is the issue related to Tycho. > >> >> > >> >> However, I think we're ready to push Maven to the next level. > >> >> > >> >> For those actively reading this list, they should recognize the need > >> for > >> >> splitting up the pom as it is on the local system versus the pom > being > >> >> uploaded. Once we truly control this mechanism we can think of > >> >> improvements on model 5.0.0 and new fileformats. > >> >> > >> >> I've created and implemented MNG-6656[1]. It also contains a zip with > >> an > >> >> example (original, patched, README) to understand what's happening. > >> >> > >> >> In order to make this successful, we need IDEs and CI Servers to > >> >> understand and support these changes. The likely need to implement > one > >> of > >> >> the interfaces[2]. > >> >> The new interface uses Java8 Functions (and especially > SAXEventFactory > >> is > >> >> way easier to read+maintain with Java 8). I've tried to keep Maven > >> Java 7 > >> >> compatible, but that was too hard to do. > >> >> So I'd like to use this opportunity to move Maven forward and start > >> >> requiring Java 8. > >> >> > >> >> There are some other improvements I'd like to add (those messages > will > >> >> follow), so this will imply that it will take some time before we do > a > >> new > >> >> release. > >> >> > >> >> WDTY, > >> >> Robert > >> >> > >> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/MNG-6656 > >> >> [2] https://github.com/apache/maven/compare/MNG-6656?expand=1 > >> >> > >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> >> > >> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >> > >> >
