Works for me to just start over on the ASF JIRA. There are a couple issues I'd move but we can migrate a issues easily. What can't continue is the complete, incomprehensible mess that is there now.
On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Stephen Connolly <stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > If we are going wholesale dumping issues (and I am not against that), I > have a more radical suggestion... let's just move core to the ASF JIRA... > with next to no issues needing migration it would be easy ;-) > > > On 20 January 2014 17:23, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > >> Really, it's more about dropping a nuclear bomb on JIRA. While trying to >> sift through it this weekend it's clear to me it's less than ideal in there. >> >> There are issues that are 12 years old and while there might be some >> useful information in there that we hand select, I think anything that is >> older than 5 years we should just close as incomplete because with the >> great deal of change that's happened with 3.x most of it isn't relevant and >> if it is, and someone cares that much then it can be reopened with a >> stand-alone working example of the problem. >> >> Now, as to the requirements for a stand-alone working example I think we >> should enforce this because personally I'm not going to check out someone's >> project, figure out how to interpret it in relation to the actual problem >> in Maven and then create a project I can turn into an IT. I'm just not >> going to do it generally. There might be exceptions but I don't want to >> read a textual examples or try to figure out snippets of a production >> project that can't be shared. In m2e we require a working example project >> to even look at a problem and if the issue sits there for a year with a >> working sample project we close it. >> >> Having an issue tracking system with 700 open issues is useless, so I >> would like to do a mass purge. It shouldn't really get beyond 50 open >> issues or it's just impossible to manage effectively. >> >> Not sure what anyone else thinks but our JIRA situation is just not >> effective. I'm thinking anything over 5 years old that isn't assigned to a >> core developer we just close as incomplete and then see what we're left >> with. If anyone complains then we point them at doco (I'll write it) about >> creating a stand-alone project because otherwise it become impossible. I >> spent 8 hours over the weekend looking at issues trying to interpret what >> someone was trying to say and I don't want to guess. If the user cares >> enough they can make an example project. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Jason >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------- >> Jason van Zyl >> Founder, Apache Maven >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl >> --------------------------------------------------------- >> >> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will >> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will come >> and sit softly on your shoulder ... >> >> -- Thoreau >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Thanks, Jason ---------------------------------------------------------- Jason van Zyl Founder, Apache Maven http://twitter.com/jvanzyl --------------------------------------------------------- believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who has said it, not even if i have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense. -- Buddha
