+1 on clean up if we communicate this (and explain why). 0 on move /Anders
On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:53 PM, Dominik Bartholdi <d...@fortysix.ch> wrote: > +1 cleanup is a really good idea! > > On 20.01.2014, at 18:50, Arnaud Héritier <aherit...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > +1 with a jira cleanup (but documented and announced to users to let them > > understand what we do and why) > > +1 to move to ASF > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 6:48 PM, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > > > >> Works for me to just start over on the ASF JIRA. There are a couple > issues > >> I'd move but we can migrate a issues easily. What can't continue is the > >> complete, incomprehensible mess that is there now. > >> > >> On Jan 20, 2014, at 12:32 PM, Stephen Connolly < > >> stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > >>> If we are going wholesale dumping issues (and I am not against that), I > >>> have a more radical suggestion... let's just move core to the ASF > JIRA... > >>> with next to no issues needing migration it would be easy ;-) > >>> > >>> > >>> On 20 January 2014 17:23, Jason van Zyl <ja...@takari.io> wrote: > >>> > >>>> Really, it's more about dropping a nuclear bomb on JIRA. While trying > to > >>>> sift through it this weekend it's clear to me it's less than ideal in > >> there. > >>>> > >>>> There are issues that are 12 years old and while there might be some > >>>> useful information in there that we hand select, I think anything that > >> is > >>>> older than 5 years we should just close as incomplete because with the > >>>> great deal of change that's happened with 3.x most of it isn't > relevant > >> and > >>>> if it is, and someone cares that much then it can be reopened with a > >>>> stand-alone working example of the problem. > >>>> > >>>> Now, as to the requirements for a stand-alone working example I think > we > >>>> should enforce this because personally I'm not going to check out > >> someone's > >>>> project, figure out how to interpret it in relation to the actual > >> problem > >>>> in Maven and then create a project I can turn into an IT. I'm just not > >>>> going to do it generally. There might be exceptions but I don't want > to > >>>> read a textual examples or try to figure out snippets of a production > >>>> project that can't be shared. In m2e we require a working example > >> project > >>>> to even look at a problem and if the issue sits there for a year with > a > >>>> working sample project we close it. > >>>> > >>>> Having an issue tracking system with 700 open issues is useless, so I > >>>> would like to do a mass purge. It shouldn't really get beyond 50 open > >>>> issues or it's just impossible to manage effectively. > >>>> > >>>> Not sure what anyone else thinks but our JIRA situation is just not > >>>> effective. I'm thinking anything over 5 years old that isn't assigned > >> to a > >>>> core developer we just close as incomplete and then see what we're > left > >>>> with. If anyone complains then we point them at doco (I'll write it) > >> about > >>>> creating a stand-alone project because otherwise it become > impossible. I > >>>> spent 8 hours over the weekend looking at issues trying to interpret > >> what > >>>> someone was trying to say and I don't want to guess. If the user cares > >>>> enough they can make an example project. > >>>> > >>>> Thanks, > >>>> > >>>> Jason > >>>> > >>>> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> Jason van Zyl > >>>> Founder, Apache Maven > >>>> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >>>> --------------------------------------------------------- > >>>> > >>>> happiness is like a butterfly: the more you chase it, the more it will > >>>> elude you, but if you turn your attention to other things, it will > come > >>>> and sit softly on your shoulder ... > >>>> > >>>> -- Thoreau > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >> > >> Thanks, > >> > >> Jason > >> > >> ---------------------------------------------------------- > >> Jason van Zyl > >> Founder, Apache Maven > >> http://twitter.com/jvanzyl > >> --------------------------------------------------------- > >> > >> believe nothing, no matter where you read it, > >> or who has said it, > >> not even if i have said it, > >> unless it agrees with your own reason > >> and your own common sense. > >> > >> -- Buddha > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > -- > > ----- > > Arnaud Héritier > > http://aheritier.net > > Mail/GTalk: aheritier AT gmail DOT com > > Twitter/Skype : aheritier > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscr...@maven.apache.org > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-h...@maven.apache.org > >
