On 6/21/2013 9:59 PM, Jörg Schmidt wrote:
Hello,

From: Rob Weir [mailto:robw...@apache.org]

What is the problem?


The CD is not from the Apache OpenOffice project.  It was not reviewed
and approved for release by the project.  It is a 3rd party product.
The website says it is from "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V..":

No, this is absolutely *not* true!

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V.." is NOT the creator of the 
PrOOo-box, but that's us (Detlef, Jan and I) three members of the AOO-Community in 
Germany.

You can see my entry here:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Directory+of+Volunteers

and I can gladly Jan and Detlef ask to register there.

The "Verein Freies Office Deutschland e.V. is the *only* one who pays us the 
hosting of the Box (850 euros per year).

*We would be pleased if the Apache paid. Apache wants to do that?*

As far as I understand the Apache way: Apache products must be hosted by Apache infrastructure(*), but as the PrOOo-Box certainly contains also non-Apache products it cannot be hosted at Apache. Seems a Catch-22 to me. Does someone has any good idea how to fix this? It would certainly be a good thing to continue the PrOOo-Box within the AOO community.

(*) Apache strictly requires to avoid community fragmentation like it had happened with OOo.

Best regards
Peter







But these are still 3rd party distributions.

No, this is the Box of german Members of the AOO-Community!


But that is not the problem, because the question is a Others, namely how we 
can make local work on AOO when we can not even provide information users need?

A notice in a news-teaser is anyway only a temporary entry. What is the problem?


Rob, you have, tell me here on the list, the following:

* it's okay to get involved locally for AOO and Apache welcomes such activities

* I should self make a choice


However, I live in Germany, and here I know the OpenOffice users for more than 
8 years, and I know what users need for assistance.
And we all have to do something otherwise AOO lost in Germany. Sorry, but that 
*is* the truth.


So we are fair and we don't give special prominence to any single 3rd
party distribution.

But that is *not* what is needed.

There shall be *no* permanent link, but only a *temporary* news-teaser. This 
teaser is automatically replaced by someone else, as soon as there are new news.

What is the problem?



Greetings,
Jörg


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