----- Original Message -----
From: "Harold L Hunt II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "G O Economou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration
manager...



> Oh, but I have already release something:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/xwinclip/changelog.html
>
> In fact, I have made 8 releases :)  I originally copied text from
> CUT_BUFFER0, which worked fine for me.  As soon as I released this
> people started complaining about what it did not do (namely, it didn't
> handle non-U.S. text).
>
> The way that xwinclip copies text was then rewritten to work with
> non-U.S. text, which introduced the problem of unhighlighting the
> selected text.
>
> Most recently we integrated the xwinclip functionality into a seperate
> thread in the X Server (XWin.exe) process, which works quite well:
> http://xfree86.cygwin.com/devel/shadow/changelog.html (see Test73)
>
> I came up with the idea of monitoring CUT_BUFFER0 for changes to let me
> know to copy data from CLIPBOARD only last week.  So, I have not
> implemented that idea yet and I wanted to see if there were other
> options I should explore before moving down that path (since most ideas
> I have had do have some drawbacks that I did not anticipate).
>
> Thanks for your input,
>
> Harold
>
> G O Economou wrote:
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Harold L Hunt II" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "xfree86-devel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2003 10:59 AM
> > Subject: If you were writing a Windows and X clipboard integration
> > manager...
> >
> >
> >
> >>...how would you do it, in 150 words or less?
> >>
> >>Seriously, I have been working on this for over a year and I would love
to
> >>hear some of the ideas that people have because I am completely stumped
on
> >>how to make such a clipboard manager work properly.
> >>
> >>It would be nice if someone responded this time...
> >>
> >>
> >>Harold Hunt
> >>Cygwin/XFree86
> >>
> >
> >
> > Harold you are making this issue unnecessarily complicated.  You are
getting
> > lost in the forest for the trees. .. ONe instead of caring about non-US
> > users, the few out there that exist, work first on getting something
going.
> > Then once that is working work on refining
> > the process.  You cannot make it work with every app out there.  MS does
not
> > do that either.  There are too many non-compliant progams written by
> > organgutans out there to hit them all.
> > Make yours compliant what you consider the major issues (Browsers, Mail
> > Managers).  Put something out otherwise you marginalise yourself.  Basic
IT
> > 101 but very non CS thinking.
> >
> > Georgina
> >
> >
> > Yes, there are at least 3 clipboard/cut-buffer mechanisms.  We
> > originally set out to watch for CUT_BUFFER0 to change, at which point we
> > would copy it to the Windows clipboard.  That seemed fine, except that
> > non-U.S. users screamed bloody murder because CUT_BUFFERs do not let you
> > get non ascii/latin1 encoded text.  Also, some users claim that not all
> > X applications paste data to CUT_BUFFER0.
> >
>

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