Zeth wrote:
2009/10/28 Michael Foord <[email protected]>:
Zeth wrote:
2009/10/28 Michael Foord <[email protected]>:
Both will likely have a nice side-effect of people signing up
early and speakers submitting their talk proposals earlier
than just before the deadlines.
I wouldn't count on earlier submissions. PyCon accepts only about 50% of
submitted talks and still *most* of them are submitted on the last day.
Well since last year in EuroPython we managed to provisionally accept
talks as we went along, I don't see what is wrong with saying that we
are full when we have enough. So instead of having a submission close
date, we have a submission period, and when we have enough talks we
just stop and organise something else.
Because many folk work to a deadline and if we close off submissions before
the deadline (or have no fixed deadline) we are *likely* to miss out on many
of the good talks.
Well as long as the date that submissions will open is known in
advance, then that is the deadline. Everyone who gets their talk then
will have the best crack at the whip. For those people you mention
"submissions open on X date" is the deadline. EuroPython has been
happening every summer for quite a while, so people should not be
surprised that it is happening in 2010, 2011, 2012, etc.
Filtering the duds as they are submitted should be possible and might help.
The PyCon team use the time before the deadline to work with submitters
on improving the quality of their submissions.
Michael
It depends of course how you define "good talk". I think we are lucky
that in the Python community, talks seem to be of a very high quality,
a much better signal to noise ratio than some other conferences I have
been to. I have not heard a talk at any Python conference that was so
bad that I had felt I wasted my time. I may have heard a talk or two
that taught me nothing new or that wasn't directly applicable to me,
but they were no doubt fantastic for someone else and I have the
option of moving to a different room.
To this point, it hasn't really been a matter of lining up talks in a
range from bad to great (like a lazy lecturer might mark essays) and
talking the top; it has more been a question of eliminating duds:
* Does the talk have nothing new to say?
* Has the person not given us enough information?
* Did the person randomly not show up without notice when they were
booked in a previous year?
* Is there other reason we have to think this person is not going to
show up and give a good talk?
If the talk passes those tests and we still have room then it is in.
Accepting talks as they come in also reduces the amount of work at the
end, although of course, anyway you do it will result in a huge pile
of post-it notes on Laura's dinner table!
Best Wishes,
Zeth
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