Hi Hal Ruhl  

Talk to Dawkins. The purpose of the gene is 
to create more genes. So the purpose of
life (at a minimum) is to create more life.
You may notice that earth was once lifeless
but its surface become alive with plants,
fishes and the other stuff from Genesis 1.

Roger Clough, rclo...@verizon.net 
11/9/2012  
"Forever is a long time, especially near the end." -Woody Allen 


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From: Hal Ruhl  
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Time: 2012-11-08, 12:02:17 
Subject: RE: Life: origin, purpose, and qualia spectrum 


Hi Stephen: 

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On 11/7/2012 11:40 AM, Hal Ruhl wrote: 
> Hi Stephen: 
> 
> pAP1 is #8 of the discussion initiating posts 
> 
> 8) Conclusion (2): Once life is present it will immediately punch as  
> many holes in as many Energy Hang-up Barriers as the details of the  
> particular life entity involved allows - this is how it realizes its  
> energy flow conduit character. This is the "purpose" of life herein.  
> In other words life's purpose is to hasten the heat death of its host 
universe. 
> 
> Hal 
Dear Hal, 

     Is "heat death" truly real or a necessary concept? 

Well the term has been around for awhile but I have not seen a proposed end 
state or series of end states of the universe in which the ability to run a 
heat engine does not become zero or asymptotically approach it. 

Hal  

> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com  
> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Stephen P. King 
> Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:07 AM 
> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com 
> Subject: Re: Life: origin, purpose, and qualia spectrum 
> 
> On 11/7/2012 9:38 AM, Hal Ruhl wrote: 
>> Hi Everyone: 
>> 
>> This may show up more than once as a few others did. In recent days  
>> I have had issues with my internet connection. It has been 16 hours  
>> since I sent this the second time. This time I tried sending it  
>> again and then again as plain text. Very sorry if my troubles cause  
>> some 
> clutter. 
>> At this time I would like to go a bit further re item iii: 
>> 
>> iii) Species survival: Life on this planet is in the midst of an  
>> extinction event [not a new idea] that can't be stopped because pAP1  
>> would be the only priority for life. We may not be extinguished as a  
>> species but we can't exclude ourselves from the extinction because of 
>> pAP1 [fixed typo]. There have been a number of extinction events. 
>> However, evolution has used some of these to produce new life  
>> entities with greater energy hang-up barrier busting ability than the  
>> extinguished ones - new life entities such as ourselves from the K-Pg 
> event. 
>> iiia) Current Economic Conditions: The news in this area has been  
>> rather bad for some time. The most frequently offered solution has  
>> been that national economies and thus the world economy must grow  
>> real GDP. In fact grow it exponentially or even super exponentially. 
>> Since the planet has only a finite supply of energy - see prior posts  
>> under #2 for energy types - a new trick has to be learned. However,  
>> the offered solution is in compliance with pAP1. Thus if pAP1 is  
>> correct then no other solution [new trick] can be offered. In this  
>> case weep for the children. I hope someone can falsify pAP1 and  
>> anything 
> near it. 
>> 
>> Hal 
>> 
> Dear Hal, 
> 
> Could you restate pAP1? 
> 
> 
> 


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