Hi John, I am quite aware of your views, which you descibe below, but I fail to see how it applies to the conversation Hal & I were having on the impacts of continuous growth in a bounded world.
On Sat, Nov 10, 2012 at 12:00:42PM -0500, John Mikes wrote: > Hal and Russell: > > my agnostic thinking prevents me from speculating about the details > how the "world" (everything) might have been *before* OUR WORLD (=this > universe) arose as well as those details that might come up *after *Homo > Sapiens is gone. Our experienced figments are valid only temporarily and > even time may be restricted to the views while we 'observe' the world. > Even the "contemporaneous" world-VIEW is restricted to that segment of the > totality (everything) that transpired into our scientific(?) *inventory of > the knowables*, our 'model' of the infinite world: into as much as we can > observe of it. > JohnM > > > On Fri, Nov 9, 2012 at 7:32 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 06, 2012 at 03:55:04PM -0500, Hal Ruhl wrote: > > > > > > Iiia) Current Economic Conditions: The news in this area has been rather > > > bad for some time. The most frequently offered solution has been that > > > national economies and thus the world economy must grow real GDP. In > > fact > > > grow it exponentially or even super exponentially. Since the planet has > > > only a finite supply of energy - see prior posts under #2 for energy > > types - > > > a new trick has to be learned. However, the offered solution is in > > > compliance with pAP1. Thus if pAP1 is correct then no other solution > > can be > > > offered. In this case weep for the children. I hope someone can falsify > > > pAP1. > > > > > > > AFAIK, there is no requirement for resource consumption to be > > proportional to GDP. So it should be possible to save the economy > > without wrecking the planet. > > > > But yes, ultimately life will have to move on from H. Sapiens... > > > > Cheers > > > > -- > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > > Principal, High Performance Coders > > Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au > > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics hpco...@hpcoders.com.au University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en.
