Telmo wrote:
*I agree. But sometimes we're lazy.My worry is always the same: the energy budget necessary to drill theholes and maintain the infrastructure compared to the yield. I'm notsaying this isn't a good idea, just that this analysis in necessary tomake it convincing. I would be glad to be convinced and then I wouldlike to have enough money to invest in your company :) Best,Telmo.* No plans, no company, with going 92. BUT... there is my (agnostic) objection to the "analysis" you mention. I did a lot within polymer science and technology: always restricted to the already knownw factors and data. Then: new info shows up and the stock market goes belly up. Anticipation and analysis cannot invent the unknowable future. Take a risk and be lucky! (That's how I made my patents). John M On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 7:43 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com>wrote: > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 11:41 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Dear Telmo, oil wells went down deeper than previously estimated as > > feasible. Techniques are evolving. > > If 2, 0r 5 pipes are inadequate in transport capacity, use more. Ask the > > engineers - I also claim ignorance. > > the geological temperature vertical map is varying according to a lot of > > factors. > > Ignorance is not a good argument for not considering (and asking). > > I agree. But sometimes we're lazy. > My worry is always the same: the energy budget necessary to drill the > holes and maintain the infrastructure compared to the yield. I'm not > saying this isn't a good idea, just that this analysis in necessary to > make it convincing. I would be glad to be convinced and then I would > like to have enough money to invest in your company :) > > Best, > Telmo. > > > John > > > > > > On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 3:45 PM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi John, > >> > >> On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 9:33 PM, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> > Telmo: > >> > unfortunately I reflected to the NZ solution on another list... - it > is > >> > a > >> > convoluted - I could say: > >> > inadeqyate - technology, just as the Au version of the surface > >> > utilization. > >> > SOME PARTS OF THE WORLD??? let us say: the surface? > >> > Solar woulrd cover immense surfaces just for supplying the energy as > >> > needed > >> > TODAY and we > >> > will need a multiple of that soon... See my remark to Russell. > >> > So far NOBODY was interested in my suggestions: ewverybody blows his > OWN > >> > pipe. > >> > Geotherm is under our feet - dry lamd or oceans. Pipes are stuck down > >> > for > >> > OIL, similar - if a bit > >> > longer for geothermic energy extraction with 2 pipes inserted: ONE for > >> > pumping DOWN the > >> > ultrapure (Si-free) water into a heat-exchanger at ~140+C environment, > >> > the > >> > OTHER to ascend > >> > the high pressure steam straight into the turbine. No deposit, as in > NZ. > >> > >> Sorry, I didn't comment out of ignorance. The idea sounds very > attractive. > >> What about depth? Is the necessary depth similar to oil extraction? > >> And what about yield? How many of these pipes would we need to replace > >> the energy output of a typical oil rig? Is it scalable? > >> > >> Cheers, > >> Telmo. > >> > >> > JOhn Mikes > >> > > >> > > >> > On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 6:39 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> On 15 November 2013 11:39, John Mikes <jami...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>> Telmo and other 'experts': > >> >>> why does nobody even mention the geothermic energy app - available > in > >> >>> huge Q-s and so far tapped only in (literalily) 'superficial' usage. > >> >>> The > >> >>> high pressure ultra-clean steam from a deepened modification of the > >> >>> exhausted oil wells may provide much much more energy than today's > >> >>> needs, so > >> >>> it could serve as driving force for more than we think by ongoing > >> >>> technology. (E.g. potable water, agri-irrigation, when fresh-water > >> >>> becomes > >> >>> scarce - like now - pollution-free transportation, keeping > politicians > >> >>> in > >> >>> asylum, etc.) . > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> I assume you mean geothermal energy. It is used in New Zealand but > >> >> doesn't > >> >> provide as much energy as wind and hydro as far as I know. > >> >> > >> >> It's an option in some parts of the world, certainly, but I would say > >> >> solar is more readily available overall. > >> >> > >> >> -- > >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> >> Groups > >> >> "Everything List" group. > >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > send > >> >> an > >> >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> >> To post to this group, send email to > everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > > >> > > >> > -- > >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >> > Groups > >> > "Everything List" group. > >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > >> > an > >> > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com > . > >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > >> > >> -- > >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >> "Everything List" group. > >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send > an > >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Everything List" group. > > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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