On 5/2/2014 2:01 PM, curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com wrote:
I am a long way off from being coherent on this topic but am enjoying the ride so against your usual preference, thanks for philosophizing with me a bit, it has provoked my thought and that is a gift.
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Free will would imply a between one course or another, which would imply that we have some control over our conscious decisions. But we know that there is causality and science tells us that things happen for a reason in the physical world where everything that happens is preceded by a cause and followed by an effect.

Free will implies the ability to cause change at will on the physical level but we know that thoughts cannot cause physical change at will. According to Sam Harris, the concept of free will is incoherent. Humans are not free and no sense can be given to the idea that we might be. Go figure.

Or, are you supposing that consciousness itself is the determining factor in change?

Or, that mind and consciousness are separate from the physical world?

Or, that the physical world is the result of consciousness?


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