---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote :
Go ahead to take her up on her offer to lecture! The more the money rolls in the less the guilt will become, that seems to be the experience of all the enlightenment peddlers. Interesting idea but I'd be breaking all my own (not to mention the Vedic ;-) laws. I'd much rather be a crusader against quantum jibber jabber on the internet, and when I satisfy myself that I know enough about it I will spread the message further. The research continues. Funnily enough there's a new documentary series on BBC4 tonight that's got me grinding my teeth already with it's advert proclaiming that things don't exist until we observe them! And it's a respectable physicist with PHD that's presenting it! From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 7:33 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <mjackson74@...> wrote : As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond. When someone would come along and ask them "What you doing sitting here in this forest?" they would reply "I am a holy man!" "Oh really, tell me holy man about your life." "Well, there is the unseen energy that is EVERYTHING and I have become one with it, and I've got all sorts of amazing powers!" And so the myths began. Nice work if you can get it. I just wish I'd thought of it. Friends tell me I should be a guru. I know so many people who sign up for every yoga/meditation/awakening course they see in town that there must be money in it. I'm pretty sure I know at least as much about asanas as the next guy and could spin a line similar to Maharshy's and maybe teach them to meditate a bit, they won't know whether I'm any good because I'd be about as good as anyone else they've seen. Trouble is, I'd feel guilty. Unless I felt that I really had something to teach that was of value and led people somewhere amazing then I couldn't do it. But I was having dinner with some friends of friends the other day and this woman who had done a pranyama course, practically begged me to lecture on meditation and yoga because I seems to know so much about it! I mean, go figure! Maybe the teachings of the Reesh sunk in after all. There's a real hunger for this stuff and I suppose it's never been different. People always want the easy escape from mundane reality into a better and more fulfilling world. I used to but then realised it wasn't an escape that could ever work. Maybe that's what I should teach. "Reality is an illusion, albeit a persistent one." From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <seerdope@...> wrote : Perhaps (probably) he did. (Traditionally) it is not uncommon for realized beings, even those well on the way, to know when prarabdha karma will come to an end. There is not much to be done to alter that. You lease a car for a specific period -- after that, fini. Realized beings simply endure that prarabdha that remains with the current body. For the unliberated (who still have sanchita karma), then its back to the vast mountain range of sanchita karma (which may have grown since the last bite due to karma generated in the just prior life) to bite off another chunk (of prarabdha karma) -- and start anew. Wheel of karma keeps on rolling. Unless you have stumbled upon an effective means to burn / roast the vast "mountain range" of sanchita karma, or in parallel parlance, dry-out and extinguished the causal body. (Ask someone who claims to be enlightened their experience of burning off that last bit of sanchita karma and the extinguishing of the causal body. If they say "huh?", "Run Forest, Run" ) I love the myths that "realised" people put around about themselves. It both gives us lowly mortals something amazing to aim for and a way for them to keep themselves above us. It's a neat trick, and yes I fell for it but it was Maharshy's obvious weakness as a speaker - that he was basically making it up as he went along - that convinced me it was all a put on. And I never heard of anyone better. What we have is an impossible ideal of wondrous powers and paranormally gained "wisdom" that no one ever demonstrates to be anything more than them claiming to have attained the sort of godlike status we read about in the holy books. Or am I wrong and there really is an infinite world within this one that I can reach by purifying my mind to reveal a deeper truth about reality that can't be understood objectively, indeed can only be experienced rather than studied? If only they'd shown us something convincing as I hate taking people at their word, especially as their word always involves them living a life of luxury being waited on hand and foot. I've certainly seen something that could be mistaken for this sort of enlightenment but is the vedic explanation the best one? Perhaps the original holy men had the same vision I did and interpreted that as being something fundamental to everything else we normally experience and then passed that down as received wisdom when really it's an imbalance in the way the brain normally constructs our perception of the world. Questions questions.
