As I have said before, the original holy men were guys who had left regular society because they were too lazy to work so they sat in the forests smoking ganja and having realistic daydreams like George Hammond. When someone would come along and ask them "What you doing sitting here in this forest?" they would reply "I am a holy man!" "Oh really, tell me holy man about your life." "Well, there is the unseen energy that is EVERYTHING and I have become one with it, and I've got all sorts of amazing powers!" And so the myths began.
From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, December 9, 2014 2:29 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Maharishi Mahesh -greatest Guru the world has ever known ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <seerdope@...> wrote : Perhaps (probably) he did. (Traditionally) it is not uncommon for realized beings, even those well on the way, to know when prarabdha karma will come to an end. There is not much to be done to alter that. You lease a car for a specific period -- after that, fini. Realized beings simply endure that prarabdha that remains with the current body. For the unliberated (who still have sanchita karma), then its back to the vast mountain range of sanchita karma (which may have grown since the last bite due to karma generated in the just prior life) to bite off another chunk (of prarabdha karma) -- and start anew. Wheel of karma keeps on rolling. Unless you have stumbled upon an effective means to burn / roast the vast "mountain range" of sanchita karma, or in parallel parlance, dry-out and extinguished the causal body. (Ask someone who claims to be enlightened their experience of burning off that last bit of sanchita karma and the extinguishing of the causal body. If they say "huh?", "Run Forest, Run" ) I love the myths that "realised" people put around about themselves. It both gives us lowly mortals something amazing to aim for and a way for them to keep themselves above us. It's a neat trick, and yes I fell for it but it was Maharshy's obvious weakness as a speaker - that he was basically making it up as he went along - that convinced me it was all a put on. And I never heard of anyone better. What we have is an impossible ideal of wondrous powers and paranormally gained "wisdom" that no one ever demonstrates to be anything more than them claiming to have attained the sort of godlike status we read about in the holy books. Or am I wrong and there really is an infinite world within this one that I can reach by purifying my mind to reveal a deeper truth about reality that can't be understood objectively, indeed can only be experienced rather than studied? If only they'd shown us something convincing as I hate taking people at their word, especially as their word always involves them living a life of luxury being waited on hand and foot. I've certainly seen something that could be mistaken for this sort of enlightenment but is the vedic explanation the best one? Perhaps the original holy men had the same vision I did and interpreted that as being something fundamental to everything else we normally experience and then passed that down as received wisdom when really it's an imbalance in the way the brain normally constructs our perception of the world. 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