salyavin, I simply meant that if I am aware of anything, it is the presence of 
awareness which is certain. The anything, not so much due to limitations of our 
senses. 

      From: salyavin808 <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Friday, December 12, 2014 11:07 AM
 Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Buddhist Logic, was The Hebrew Language is The 
DNA of Creation
   
    


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote :

Richard, for me it's summed up in the only statement one can make, imo, with 
100% certainty: awareness exists. As far as I can tell, that's the only thing I 
can know for sure. What do you think?

Well I agree. All we actually know is what our senses permit our minds to see 
and hear, and we decide what it's all about for ourselves from that. 

  From: "'Richard J. Williams' punditster@... [FairfieldLife]" 
<FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
 Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2014 8:22 PM
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Buddhist Logic, was The Hebrew Language is The DNA of 
Creation
 
 On 12/11/2014 1:24 PM, Share Longwrote:

 >



salyavin, I think the 2 simplest answers are: 
the universenever started; it just always wasor, theuniverse is starting at 
every nanosecond.Which one ofthese is most wobbly, do you think?
>
In order to answer this question you would haveto apply the Buddhist logic of 
Gaudapada or Nagarjuna - sciencecannot answer this question, it can only 
*infer* that their was abeginning to the universe and that it is expanding, or 
not,according to the "big bang theory" - it's just sheer speculation,Share, 
because nothing exists outside of the conscious mind andthere is only one mind 
- not a body and a mind - that's adualistic concept. According to the logical 
doctrine propounded byGaudapada's Alatasanti: 

"There is only One - there are not two. Everything but the Oneis an illusion. 
The One is the only Reality. The One can only beexperienced in transcendental 
consciousness." 

This is the cardinal doctrine of Adwaita Vedanta: There is nocreation, no 
dissolution; no coming forth, no coming to be;nothing moves here or there; 
there is no change. There is onlyconsciousness, or not.

Excerpt from mANDUkya kArikA IV by gauDapAda:

"Duality is only an appearance; non-duality is
the real truth. The object exists as an object
for the knowing subject; but it does not exist
outside of consciousness because the distinction
of subject and object is within consciousness."

Works cited:

Raju, P.T., The Philosophical Traditions of India. MotilalBanarsidass. 1992. p. 
177.

Sharma, Chandrahar, A Critical Survey of Indian Philosophy.Rider. p. 245-246.

Stcherbatsky, Theodore. Buddhist Logic. Dover, 1962. p.281.





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