Bronte: My friend, what should I call you? I can't pronounce your web name -- so, "friend": Thanks for this observation, and I agree: learning to play an instrument is often easier with a teacher, but not always. And teachers are not essential, although most gurus will tell you that they are. It's one thing to say "I'm a great real estate agent and will help you sell your house if you like" versus saying "You will never sell your house without my help, you poor miserable schlep." The latter being analogous to most gurus are saying. And I'll continue to gripe about that kind of manipulation. --So which approach is easier, with, or without a teacher? (in generaly, don't talk about isolated exceptions). In advance, let's take care of one exception: HWL Poonja. He states that in his last incarnation (prior to being "HWL Poonja"...died in the 90's), he was an advanced Krishna-bhakti Yogi. Then as Poonja in the course of his travels as an engineer, he happens to get an urge to visit Ramana Maharshi in his cave. Poonja tells RM about his many visions of Krishna, and RM asks, "Are you having a vision right now?". Then after a few more leading questions RM in essence tells Poonja he's "already" Enlightened. Poonja "got it" and became Enlightened on the spot. But then, RM was a teacher, wasn't he?
In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Bronte Baxter <brontebaxter8@ ...> wrote: > > ---Sure, one can get Enlightened without a Guru; likewise, one can > learn how to play the violin without a teacher. (as Borak would > say...."NOT" !). > > > Bronte: > Curious, I know lots of people who've taught themselves musical instruments. > --------------------------------- Yahoo! oneSearch: Finally, mobile search that gives answers, not web links.