Before we built our outdoor cat enclosures, I used an old air conditioner sleeve, which I enclosed with wire hardware cloth (1/4").
-----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2010 4:41 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia Can you fix a window perch for her? A box with screened sides and a top that would fit in one of your windows that she could use when the weather is right? On Sep 17, 2010, at 11:04 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: > I forgot to add that on our very small base there are no wild > animals, most strays are caught almost immediately ( Fuji is > collared and chipped) and the likelihood of Fuji coming across and > getting into a confrontation with another cat are very slim. Most > people who have cats brought them from the states and have already > had them vaccinated. Again, very few are actually let out. The > speed limit on most of the base is less than 40 kilometers per hour > (about 25 mph.) I know there are a lot of things she can come > across if she goes outside. I'll probably keep trying to sit out > with her as I have done since she got sick. However, if she > occasionally manages to escape my clutches, I won't worry too much! > She stays pretty close and always comes home in a couple of hours. > I really am trying to do my best to keep her healthy and happy. > > Thanks again for your input and concern. > > Melinda and Fuji > On Sep 18, 2010, at 6:49 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: > >> Suggestion: Fix her a secure kennel outside. I put up a 12x12x6 >> foot kennel with a topper (anything, including a tarp, will work. >> I used left over chain link). Daddy had a piece of ductwork fixed >> so Ebony and Mi Tu could go to a window in a bath, go through a pet >> door, walk out in the ductwork and down a ramp into a kennel fitted >> with plastic milk crates and other "toys." Both cats were FeLV-, >> healthy and wonderful. Ebony had been a street cat until about age >> 3 +. He became a yard cat then an inside outside cat then he and I >> moved and he needed to be an inside cat with a play area. The cost >> was less than $300 and I rested secure in the knowledge that Ebony >> (who was getting older) and Mi Tu (who had never lived inside) had >> a safe place to go. >> >> If you just let her go you are endangering other cats she may come >> into contact with. You may be subjecting her to a painful death >> too. If she becomes sick, other animals will prey on her. I'll >> leave the details to you. I don't tell you this to scare you but >> to be sure you realize what you may be doing. Dixie was grown when >> she can into my life. She was FeLV+ and very alone. She became a >> garage cat then a house trailer cat then a two house cat who had >> everything. I thought about just letting her go but could not do >> that to the other cats that depended on me.......nor could I face >> what might happen to her. We live in the country with dogs, >> coyotes, hawks and.....well, you get the idea. >> >> With a lot of stress-reducers, your little one will adjust. >> Actually, getting a companion who is FELV+ may be the best answer. >> >> >> On Sep 17, 2010, at 4:33 PM, Melinda Kerr wrote: >> >>> Hello all, >>> >>> I haven't really posted much and I've never actually shared my >>> story. I will be brief now and say that I have a 15 month young >>> kitty who is FeLV positive and receiving Chemo for mediastinal >>> lymphoma. The problem is, she doesn't know that she is supposed >>> to be sick. At this time there are no outward signs of illness. >>> She was allowed outside for a couple of hours at a time, never >>> overnight and always staying close to home. Now, I try to limit >>> her to outside time with close supervision. However, she has >>> started to push the boundaries and is running and hiding from me. >>> I know she is trying to play with me and alleviate some of her >>> boredom. She spends the day begging to go out, crying meee >>> ooooutttt, all day long. She races us to the door and bites at >>> our ankles to try to get out. I'm faced with the decision of >>> "just letting her go" because her quality of life seems to depend >>> on it. She is otherwise quite content. I am leaning toward >>> giving her more outside time and dealing with the consequences. >>> Her chances at a long life are very limited anyway and I feel that >>> I should try to make her happy. >>> >>> Am I wrong to feel this way? >>> >>> Melinda and Fuji >>> >>> On Sep 18, 2010, at 2:52 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, Natalie. I have one little lady who is a "rehabilitated >>>> feral." She raised a litter of kittens down by the creek. Some >>>> kind people trapped them and found homes for thekittens, but no >>>> one wanted mama cat. She's a lovely brushed coat calico. She is >>>> sweet as pie, and Never offers to run out the door. The look she >>>> gives is, "Been there, done that, don't want it!" She has her >>>> quirks (who doesn't?) but is a very loving companion. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie" <at...@optonline.net> >>>> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 5:54 AM >>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>> >>>> >>>>> I would advise the same...do not tempt fate by letting him out >>>>> again. Use >>>>> some Feliway spray or plug-in to de-stress their/his environment! >>>>> Re: feral cats - 90% of the cats that I trap are feral! I don't >>>>> release >>>>> them; all of them adapt perfectly to living indoors - some have >>>>> absolutely >>>>> no desire to use their outdoor enclosure, they must be so happy >>>>> to have a >>>>> roof over their heads! Most become tame and are adopted, for >>>>> some it happens >>>>> too late and they're too old for anyone wanting them - couch >>>>> potatoes, >>>>> nonetheless!.....Natalie >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar >>>>> Clan >>>>> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2010 8:38 AM >>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>> Importance: High >>>>> >>>>> Some will disagree but, if you can, keeping Lucky inside will help >>>>> keep him healthy at his age even w/o the FeLV issue. There are >>>>> some >>>>> ferals who hang out at Mom's that are in that age group and I >>>>> worry >>>>> about them. They can't be touched but are very wonderful cats. >>>>> I live >>>>> trapped them to s/n but they would totally stress out in a house. >>>>> Lucky has settled down into a house routine as some other ferals >>>>> of >>>>> mine have. Don't tempt fate by letting him out again. (MHO) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:01 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, Tanya, that is helpful information. >>>>>> Lucky is between 11 and 13 yrs. My other cats are: 14, 9 and >>>>>> 7. I >>>>>> keep my cats _strictly_ indoors. Lucky would have to adapt to >>>>>> that >>>>>> life, or show me he will stay only in my yard (which, at his >>>>>> age, he >>>>>> might do). Thanks for the info on IFA -- I will request that. >>>>>> My main fears are(1) food and water dish sharing, and (2) >>>>>> litter box >>>>>> sharing. I keep one box per cat, but that does not mean each cat >>>>>> uses its own box. So I suspect there is "box sharing." And I >>>>>> know >>>>>> that they eat indiscriminately from the dishes. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TANYA NOE" <sashacatgodd...@yahoo.com >>>>>>> >>>>>> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> >>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 4:35 PM >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> How old are your other cats? Cats develop some natural immunity >>>>>>> with age. After the age of 1-3 they become less likely to >>>>>>> develop >>>>>>> FeLV. If vaccinated and over 3 the risk is there but small. >>>>>>> How old >>>>>>> is the cat that tested positive? If under a year there is a good >>>>>>> chance the cats body can rid itself of the virus. I would wait 6 >>>>>>> weeks and retest the cat again regardless of age and see if it >>>>>>> still shows positive. You can also do an IFA which tests to >>>>>>> see if >>>>>>> the virus has settled into the bone marrow. Once in the marrow >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> cannot be eliminated from the body. >>>>>>> I have a 14 year old negative cat and a 2 year old positive cat. >>>>>>> I do not separate them, there is still a small risk allowing >>>>>>> them >>>>>>> together but I vaccinate the negative one and cross my >>>>>>> fingers. I >>>>>>> don't know if I have ever seen anyone on here post that a neg >>>>>>> turned pos from mixing, again though still a risk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>>> Tanya >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- On Thu, 9/16/10, Natalie <at...@optonline.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> Date: Thursday, September 16, 2010, 2:55 PM >>>>>>>> All vaccines are only about 80% >>>>>>>> effective....I really don't have much >>>>>>>> experience with this because I have two very healthy >>>>>>>> FeLV+ cats, living >>>>>>>> separately from others. But I would think that if >>>>>>>> retested, being only a >>>>>>>> "weak positive", maybe the cat will be negative! It >>>>>>>> seems to have been >>>>>>>> really run down, the immune system was definitely >>>>>>>> compromised, fighting an >>>>>>>> infection, fleas....Good luck! Natalie >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] >>>>>>>> On Behalf Of Debbie Bates >>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2010 1:23 PM >>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Bonnie, it got through! Hang in there for just a >>>>>>>> bit....there are many >>>>>>>> extremely well informed members who will have any and all >>>>>>>> information you >>>>>>>> need! I am not dealing with any felv cats, but come >>>>>>>> here often so that I >>>>>>>> stay informed.... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Debbie >>>>>>>> "We choose our joys and sorrows long before we experience >>>>>>>> them." - Kahlil >>>>>>>> Gibran >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> From: ho...@sonic.net >>>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>>> Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 09:32:46 -0700 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This e-mail got bounced back to me....am trying one >>>>>>>> more time. >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bonnie Hogue >>>>>>>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 9:37 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: New to Feline Leukemia >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's a long story, but I'll shorten it... >>>>>>>>> My mom has a "heart cat" named Lucky. She's disabled >>>>>>>> and no longer living >>>>>>>> at home. Her sister was caring for Lucky, but herself is >>>>>>>> unwell and >>>>>>>> struggling. I went over to feed the cats during her >>>>>>>> hospitalization and >>>>>>>> Lucky did not look good. I took him to the vet: bad fleas, >>>>>>>> possible infected >>>>>>>> eye and nose, and tested "weak positive" for feline >>>>>>>> leukemia. This makes my >>>>>>>> plan of integrating him into my 3-cat household a real >>>>>>>> challenge. The vet >>>>>>>> said I could get my three cats vaccinated "providing 80% >>>>>>>> protection"... >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, Lucky is sequestered in the spare bedroom, >>>>>>>> taking antibiotics >>>>>>>> (what a good cat!) and healing. I'm trying to figure out >>>>>>>> how to make this >>>>>>>> work, longer term. >>>>>>>>> Ideas??? >>>>>>>>> Thank you! >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >>>>>>> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Felvtalk mailing list >>>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
