Yeah, it's a catch-22, the elements are much kinder to the cats here...and
thus we have many more cats with year round reproduction...kitten season
never really ends here, though it does slow down considerably and when it
hits--it's like kitten hurricane season.   Worried about this one as we had
an extremely mild winter, shelters are already filling up with kittens and
nursing mamas[?]

On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 3:40 PM, GRAS <g...@optonline.net> wrote:

>  At least the cat colonies don’t have to freeze in the winter in FL like
> they do elsewhere…****
>
> Most TNR groups that I know of in this area don’t tests at all.****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Heather
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 08, 2012 1:27 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Fwd: TNR****
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Heather* <furrygi...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 1:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] TNR
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> ****
>
> Definitely not to argue, but to provide some perspective on high volume
> TNR and the ACA (and Neighborhood Cats) stance on routine testing of TNR
> ferals...****
>
>  ****
>
> While millions of cats are of course killed in shelters each year
> nationally, the free roaming cat population on the streets may differ
> vastly geographically.  In my city (Tampa), there are hundreds of thousands
> of feral cats.   There are several of us constantly practicing TNR on the
> "population at large" (or colonies where the feeders are not fixing--a huge
> sore spot with us, too), meaning trapping pretty much every week, sometimes
> more than once a week, cats who are not at our own colonies.  Some of my
> friends trap anywhere from 10 - 50 cats per week for TNR (and of course
> kittens and such are rescued as much as space/socialization/fosters permit,
> sick cats treated, etc.)  Routine TNR's--not being rescued for adoption or
> not being addressed/treated for illness are not tested.   If we tested
> every cat, we could only spay/neuter/vaccinate a fraction of the cats.
> There would be far more (exponentially, we all know how cats can
> reproduce--here it's hot and a mama will have 3 litters a year) cats
> breeding, spreading illness.  There would be more negative AND more
> positive cats, and therefore since unfixed, also more positive (and
> negative) kittens being born on the streets.   In our city, we are serving
> the greater good by fixing as many as possible.   Since we all also do a
> lot of rescue, pulling friendlies/dumped cats, or cats to be treated for
> illness, from colonies, I can say we run into FELV fairly seldomly.
> Despite my own very high # of colonies, in addition to helping people
> rescue and fix cats all over, I have run into FELV the most of anyone I
> know and it's really just been in two areas, close in proximity, where the
> feeders are NOT fixing the cats.  Disease definititely seems to proliferate
> where the cats are unsterilized, though of course I realize it spreads in
> other ways besides reproducing. ****
>
>  ****
>
> As TNR has steadily increased in our county, the # of cats euthanized at
> our county AS has steadily declined--I can share a graph if anyone is
> interested, the results are absolutely amazing and pretty much in direct
> proportion in terms of euth decrease/TNR increase.   Several years ago
> 16K-18K cats were killed per year at this county shelter; now it is down to
> around 9K.****
>
>  ****
>
> Even our own local Humane Society--which has the most awesome s/n/TNR
> clinic, but was very firm on testing for years, finally conceded with the
> ACA/Neighborhood Cats stance that, on routine TNR's not showing signs of
> illness, the resources are best spent in sterilizing more cats than on
> testing.  They do sometimes call us while assessing/operating and say they
> feel a particular cat needs to be tested.  They are elated by the decrease
> in shelter euthanasia as well.****
>
>  ****
>
> I have no qualms returning an FIV+ cat to a safe area with a good
> caretaker, I had one FIV+ female who lived to be 14 outside until we
> brought her in to live her last 9 months due to geriatric issues.  Granted,
> this was on a university campus where we often have cats live to be over 10
> years old (just a little different environment from the true streets such
> as fast food joints, etc.).****
>
>  ****
>
> I hope me providing this perspective isn't resented--again, it's not
> intended to argue, just some comments to explain why many embrace the ACA
> perspective on not testing routine TNR's****
>
>  ****
>
> Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion and best practices for
> what they are doing.  The overpopulation problem in Florida is insane, that
> is one thing that goes without saying.****
>
>  ****
>
> Thanks everyone for caring about cats!****
>
>  ****
>
> Heather****
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 12:26 PM, Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> wrote:****
>
> I agree, FeLV should be put down or homed. I have returned FIV cats****
>
> Unfortunately, Alley Cat Allies thinks they all should be returned & not
> even tested. The place I have gotten ferals fixed believes this & refuses
> to test ferals.****
>
> Crazy.****
>
>  ****
>
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