One has to marvel at the mindset of bureaucrats when reporting on politically sensitive subjects. I think the following fits Eugene's rules for discussion, so from the report/pages . . .
"or from a misguided idea about self-protection" Their comment was not fully described, so I have to guess that the government feels that there are adequate alternatives to firearms for self-protection (I say tongue-in-cheek given the U.K. government's well establish beliefs concerning where protection comes from). I perceive this as a logic trap: to wit: a) The government provides protection b) Thus, any alternative is unnecessary c) Contrary information not withstanding This logic (or lack thereof) falls apart on two levels: 1) First, it presumes that the protection offered by the government is effective and plentiful. I think it can be stipulated that because of "the rise in the number of young people carrying real or imitation firearms . . . [for] self-protection", there is a conclusion by citizens that government protection is neither effective nor plentiful. 2) It eliminates comparisons to alternatives, and thus one never knows for certain if the government is providing adequate services. Now, given these logic bombs, the alleged justification for the report is "We want an open and wide-ranging debate, in advance of deciding what action might need to be taken" may be self-contradictory -- I think there is an oxymoron afoot. Given the assumptions the government is making about the quality of their protective services, is there any real latitude for debate? Likely not. Which makes Peter's original clip sadly amusing. "Contrary to public perception, the overall level of gun crime in this country is relatively low - less than half of 1% of all crime recorded by the police" Let me get this straight: 1) Gun crime rates are low 2) But there is a worrying rise in carrying for firearms 3) Which is not an indicator of a high crime rate 4) So we better do something about it! ----------------- Guy Smith Author, Gun Facts www.GunFacts.info [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Peter Boucher Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 4:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Gun Crime Down in Britain http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime/guncrime/index.html "Contrary to public perception, the overall level of gun crime in this country is relatively low - less than half of 1% of all crime recorded by the police - and in the year ending 31 March 2003, there was: a 16% reduction in homicides involving firearms a 13% reduction in robberies involving firearms Even so, we have seen an unacceptable rise in gun crime over recent years, and are doing everything we can to tackle it. _______________________________________________ To post, send message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To subscribe, unsubscribe, change options, or get password, see http://lists.ucla.edu/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/firearmsregprof