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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tim Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 1:04 AM
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Subject: Re: Gun Crime Down in Britain


>>"Joe Sylvester" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

>>>Message: 1
>>>Date: Mon, 26 Jul 2004 17:29:45 -0600
>>>From: "Peter Boucher" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>Subject: Gun Crime Down in Britain
>>
>>
>>>http://www.homeoffice.gov.uk/crime/guncrime/index.html
>>
<snip>
>
>> have less need for a gun. Again the real question is, does a disarmed
>> citizenry lead to more or less violent crime, everything else being
equal?

> Violent crime has decreased steadily since the 1997.  The latest
> figures, released this month, show another decrease.  Of course
> everything else isn't equal and there have been similar declines in
> the US, Canada and Germany.
>
> --
> Tim

Dr. Lambert cites the BSC which has problems as I've previously reported and
as mentioned again in the Guardian article posted by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Specifically,

'The shadow home secretary, David Davis, said the BCS did not record
"various categories of violent crime", including murder and rape, retail
crime, drug-taking, or offences in which the victims were aged below 16.

"The most reliable measure of crime is that which is reported to the
police," he added. "We're facing over a million violent crimes a year for
the first time in history."'

Also, the violence figures used by Dr. Lambert bury serious violent crimes
in the larger number of less serious offenses.  Except for murder (largely
driven by the U.S. illegal drug trade and involving criminal on criminal
attacks), our violence is lower than Britain's.  And Britain's serious
crimes grow in numbers year by year.

Phil





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