Probably we can add another directory in $fish_complete_path where authors
of other utilities can keep their completions and it should get priority
over other completions.


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:50 PM, SanskritFritz <sanskritfr...@gmail.com>wrote:

> Hi
> Please read the conversation below. I would like to ask about your
> opinions.
> TL;DR: I wrote completions for obnam (a backup application), it is now
> part of fish shell. However the obnam author suggests that obnam.fish
> should be maintained rather by the obnam project itself for the
> reasons outlined below.
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: SanskritFritz <sanskritfr...@gmail.com>
> Date: Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM
> Subject: Re: fish shell tab completions for obnam
> To: Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi>
> Cc: obnam-...@obnam.org
>
>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi> wrote:
> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:29:39AM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi> wrote:
> >> > Note cc to the new obnam-dev mailing list.
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 12:39:57AM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
> >> >> I'm happy to announce that my fish shell tab completions script for
> >> >> obnam has been accepted upstream:
> >> >>
> https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/blob/master/share/completions/obnam.fish
> >> >
> >> > Hi, and thanks!
> >> >
> >> > I will merge that when I can.
> >>
> >> You don't have to, the file is now part of fish shell officially.
> >
> > Ah, right. That's good, too.
> >
> >> > It looks like it's a static list of
> >> > options, though. Is it possible to generate that list automatically,
> >> > perhaps at Obnam installation time (in setup.py)? That would make it
> >> > possible to make it always be up to date.
> >>
> >> I guess it would be possible. But I'm not sure how we could resolve
> >> the conflict of two installations using the same file. Installing
> >> obnam would overwrite obnam.fish which is part of the fish shell
> >> package? Definitely a bad idea.
> >> Another idea would be that obnam install generates the file somewhere
> >> else and we manually copy it over the file owned by fish. Of course we
> >> would send the changes upstream.
> >> Or we can pull obnam.fish entirelly from the fish sources and maintain
> >> it ourselves.
> >> Any ideas?
> >
> > I don't use fish myself, so I'm happy with the current situation if
> > you are. :)
> >
> > However, in the interest of pursuing perfection, how would this sound:
> >
> > * Only Obnam provides the obnam.fish file.
> >
> > * The file gets generated automatically at build time, and installed
> >   at installation time by setup.py.
> >
> > * This will be implemented as a small extension to the cliapp Python
> >   library, making it possible to provide fish completion to all
> >   applications that use cliapp. This would be similar to the
> >   --generate-manpage option that cliapp already provides. (Later, this
> >   could be extended to provide completion data for other shells, if
> >   there's interest.)
> >
> > I think this should be reasonably painless to implement, and it would
> > provide a way to keep the completions always up to date. However, I
> > don't know if this would work well with the way fish users and
> > developers usually do things. I'd also appreciate help with
> > implementing this: I can make cliapp produce an output file in the
> > right format, or guide someone to do it, but what is the right format?
> > Where should the file be placed upon installation so that fish finds
> > it?
> >
> > Obviously this is not an urgent thing to do, since fish now already
> > has completions. :)
>
> I'm fairly active in the fish project, so I'll hop over to the fish
> mailing list and ask for opinions first. So far the policy has
> definitely been that fish provides the completions for other programs.
> That clearly has the drawback of lagging behind, because when a new
> version of, say, obnam is issued, there must be another round to put
> the changes on the completions into fish upstream. Other shells don't
> usually provide completions for foreign programs, for example systemd
> provides bash and zsh completions, while fish provides completions for
> systemd.
> I'll be back :D
>
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