On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM, Siteshwar <sitesh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Probably we can add another directory in $fish_complete_path where authors
> of other utilities can keep their completions and it should get priority
> over other completions.
>

+1 to that!!

>
> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:50 PM, SanskritFritz <sanskritfr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi
>> Please read the conversation below. I would like to ask about your
>> opinions.
>> TL;DR: I wrote completions for obnam (a backup application), it is now
>> part of fish shell. However the obnam author suggests that obnam.fish
>> should be maintained rather by the obnam project itself for the
>> reasons outlined below.
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: SanskritFritz <sanskritfr...@gmail.com>
>> Date: Thu, May 29, 2014 at 10:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: fish shell tab completions for obnam
>> To: Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi>
>> Cc: obnam-...@obnam.org
>>
>>
>> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 9:49 AM, Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi> wrote:
>> > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 09:29:39AM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
>> >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 12:00 AM, Lars Wirzenius <l...@liw.fi> wrote:
>> >> > Note cc to the new obnam-dev mailing list.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sun, May 04, 2014 at 12:39:57AM +0200, SanskritFritz wrote:
>> >> >> I'm happy to announce that my fish shell tab completions script for
>> >> >> obnam has been accepted upstream:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/blob/master/share/completions/obnam.fish
>> >> >
>> >> > Hi, and thanks!
>> >> >
>> >> > I will merge that when I can.
>> >>
>> >> You don't have to, the file is now part of fish shell officially.
>> >
>> > Ah, right. That's good, too.
>> >
>> >> > It looks like it's a static list of
>> >> > options, though. Is it possible to generate that list automatically,
>> >> > perhaps at Obnam installation time (in setup.py)? That would make it
>> >> > possible to make it always be up to date.
>> >>
>> >> I guess it would be possible. But I'm not sure how we could resolve
>> >> the conflict of two installations using the same file. Installing
>> >> obnam would overwrite obnam.fish which is part of the fish shell
>> >> package? Definitely a bad idea.
>> >> Another idea would be that obnam install generates the file somewhere
>> >> else and we manually copy it over the file owned by fish. Of course we
>> >> would send the changes upstream.
>> >> Or we can pull obnam.fish entirelly from the fish sources and maintain
>> >> it ourselves.
>> >> Any ideas?
>> >
>> > I don't use fish myself, so I'm happy with the current situation if
>> > you are. :)
>> >
>> > However, in the interest of pursuing perfection, how would this sound:
>> >
>> > * Only Obnam provides the obnam.fish file.
>> >
>> > * The file gets generated automatically at build time, and installed
>> >   at installation time by setup.py.
>> >
>> > * This will be implemented as a small extension to the cliapp Python
>> >   library, making it possible to provide fish completion to all
>> >   applications that use cliapp. This would be similar to the
>> >   --generate-manpage option that cliapp already provides. (Later, this
>> >   could be extended to provide completion data for other shells, if
>> >   there's interest.)
>> >
>> > I think this should be reasonably painless to implement, and it would
>> > provide a way to keep the completions always up to date. However, I
>> > don't know if this would work well with the way fish users and
>> > developers usually do things. I'd also appreciate help with
>> > implementing this: I can make cliapp produce an output file in the
>> > right format, or guide someone to do it, but what is the right format?
>> > Where should the file be placed upon installation so that fish finds
>> > it?
>> >
>> > Obviously this is not an urgent thing to do, since fish now already
>> > has completions. :)
>>
>> I'm fairly active in the fish project, so I'll hop over to the fish
>> mailing list and ask for opinions first. So far the policy has
>> definitely been that fish provides the completions for other programs.
>> That clearly has the drawback of lagging behind, because when a new
>> version of, say, obnam is issued, there must be another round to put
>> the changes on the completions into fish upstream. Other shells don't
>> usually provide completions for foreign programs, for example systemd
>> provides bash and zsh completions, while fish provides completions for
>> systemd.
>> I'll be back :D
>>
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